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mohammadzzz wrote: » Hi using the above method i am still confused on the following from subnettingquestions.com what is the broad cast address for 172.24.232.0 255.255.254.0 according to my calculations the block size is 24 where 256-232=24,we count into the third octet from zero to reach the above ip,but answer is 172.24.233.255,can somebody please help that how we drive to this answer.
IT69 wrote: » This thread has got to be the best thing in the CCNA section, has helped so much....thanks so much to OP and others who contributed good info
thomas130 wrote: » is there an easy to work this one out class a network 10.0.0.0 create a subnet mask for the 600 subnets. THen Identify the 100th subnet I can work out doing the subnet easy but is there an easier way to finding out the 100th subnet rather than writing each subnet down like this 10.0.0.0 10.0.64.0 10.0.128.0 10.0.192.0 It would take forever
pickarooney wrote: » This is the first, and so far only technique I've been able to understand and apply so first up thanks a million to the OP for posting it. I can do about 70% of the questions on subnettingquestions.com reasonably quickly but there is one type that consistently stumps me. If anyone can talk me through a method for working this out without resorting to writing down a list of 1s and 0s I'd be eternally grateful. I can't grasp the concept of borrowing bits which has been my downfall many times.How many subnets and hosts per subnet can you get from the network 172.19.0.0 255.255.255.192It's a class B address whose default mask is 255.255.0.0 and the last octet has the mask, which is 64 less than 256 so I think this is the block size. I can't get past the next bit, working out the number of subnets and hosts. I also can't work out how to convert from digital format mask to slash format.
pickarooney wrote: » I understand some of that... You lost me a little bit at borrowing bits, though. I can just about grasp that the change from default 255.255.0.0 involves borrowing taking 255 from the host portion and adding it to the third octet. I know that this is 8 bits just because it's a standard number. I've no idea how you get the additional 2 bits from the number 192 though. It looks like it would take 10 minutes to work all this out, with moving from digital to slash and then working out the blocks, but I assume you added in this step specifically because I asked how to switch between them. I just about understand the 3x8 but again where does the 2 come from? If the number in the 3rd octet was anything other than 255 I don't understand how to work out how many are borrowed and as a result in the next step I don't get how to work out the number of subnets provided by this mask. So I think there are two sticking points which, if I can understand them, will make everything clear 1. How to work out the number of bits borrowed from an octet if the number is not 255 or 0 2. How to count the number of subnets available from a mask other than 255
boredgamelad wrote: » This is exactly why I advocate learning to subnet by hand first. The other methods don't help if you don't understand what's happening to the bits themselves.
pickarooney wrote: » It's slowly sinking in that I get the physical manifestation of the bit masking and I guess the main thing is to just learn these pairs of numbers off by heart in order to be able to solve questions reasonably quickly 1 bit = 128 2 bits = 192 3 bits = 224 4 bits = 240 5 bits = 248 6 bits = 252 7 bits = 254 8 bits = 255
dazl1212 wrote: » Say you have a 192.168.1.0 network 255.255.255.192 and you subnet it could you not use say 192.168.1.16 as the network address? I'm 99% sure its a no but I just want to double check. It is the only thing I am not sure of.
dazl1212 wrote: » Thanks CCIEwannabe
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