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CCNA Voice / CCNA Routing & Switching Comparison

ulater6000ulater6000 Member Posts: 18 ■□□□□□□□□□
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Hi,

I'm currently in the process of studying to re-certify my CCNA Routing & Switching but realized I have until this summer to do it, so I might as well go for the 640-461 which will re-certify my CCNA Routing & Switching and give me the CCNA Voice too.

At first I assumed the CCNA Voice would share a lot of the content of the regular CCNA curriculum with the majority of it be centered on VOIP, but the more I look into this, it seems like the 640-461 doesn't really build on the base CCNA at all. How much do the CCNA R&S and CCNA Voice have in common?

Also, since I'm learning this from the ground up, I need a good book to read cover to cover... any recommendations? I really like Tod Lammle's Sybex books and have used them for all my other certs, but there's not one available for 640-461. In fact the only book I keep coming back to is this Official Cisco 640-461 Cert Guide. I've heard the Cisco press books are generally bad and have tried to avoid them so I want to know what else is out there.

Also, any other general advice for someone trying to self study for free?

Thanks!
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    mscdexmscdex Member Posts: 14 ■□□□□□□□□□
    CCNA - Voice is nothing like R&S. This cert hardly touches IOS and the things that it does go over would be brand new concepts. There is not that much study material out there for this cert but as everyone will tell you, the INE videos will give you a lot of info. I started with those (took about a month to watch them all) then I read the official CCNA-Voice book from Cisco while i labed. For CUCM, just install it in VMware and get a pair of cisco IP phones. I got 5 on ebay for $10. I now use them as my home phones. This cert mostly centers on CUCM so make sure you know the menus and how to run different reports.
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    ande0255ande0255 Banned Posts: 1,178
    Yeah CCNA Voice is completely different from Route and Switch, I think the only thing they share in common is the CME uses a command line interface, which makes it easier to understand jumping between prompts if you've worked on Cisco IOS before.

    When you work in a voice support role though, the Route and Switch experience really is necessary for troubleshooting, as there is a lot of layer 3 / layer 2 issues that can arise between Phone A and Phone B over a WAN.

    Is there any specific reason you are studying Voice?
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    hyperSCSIhyperSCSI Member Posts: 11 ■□□□□□□□□□
    I took this test a few weeks ago. mscdex and ande covered it pretty well by saying that the cert barely touches IOS and I would argue that it's not a good measure of how well someone knows voice. Memorize the gui and you'll pass. It's a shame.
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    pitviperpitviper Member Posts: 1,376 ■■■■■■■□□□
    hyperSCSI wrote: »
    I took this test a few weeks ago. mscdex and ande covered it pretty well by saying that the cert barely touches IOS and I would argue that it's not a good measure of how well someone knows voice. Memorize the gui and you'll pass. It's a shame.

    They are probably prepping you for an entry into the enterprise CUCM environment, which is GUI-centric. I don't know any respectable partners who setup CME via the GUI though lol and I've bailed out several people who have attempted it :)
    CCNP:Collaboration, CCNP:R&S, CCNA:S, CCNA:V, CCNA, CCENT
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