OSPF DR election confusion.

I have connected 3 routers to the same ethernet network and to my surprise this is the situation:
1.1.1.1 DR
2.2.2.2 BDR
3.3.3.3 DROTHER
I have not changed the priority, so shouldn't the election be based on the router ID?

If i turn on 3.3.3.3 after the first two, is the election process done again or it will simply accept the others as DR/BDR and it will humbly become a DROTHER without protesting?

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xnx

9.4. Electing the Designated Router

This section describes the algorithm used for calculating a
network's Designated Router and Backup Designated Router. This
algorithm is invoked by the Interface state machine. The
initial time a router runs the election algorithm for a network,
the network's Designated Router and Backup Designated Router are
initialized to 0.0.0.0. This indicates the lack of both a
Designated Router and a Backup Designated Router.

The Designated Router election algorithm proceeds as follows:
Call the router doing the calculation Router X. The list of
neighbors attached to the network and having established
bidirectional communication with Router X is examined. This
list is precisely the collection of Router X's neighbors (on
this network) whose state is greater than or equal to 2-Way (see
Section 10.1). Router X itself is also considered to be on the
list. Discard all routers from the list that are ineligible to
become Designated Router. (Routers having Router Priority of 0
are ineligible to become Designated Router.) The following
steps are then executed, considering only those routers that
remain on the list:

(1) Note the current values for the network's Designated Router
and Backup Designated Router. This is used later for
comparison purposes.

(2) Calculate the new Backup Designated Router for the network
as follows. Only those routers on the list that have not
declared themselves to be Designated Router are eligible to
become Backup Designated Router. If one or more of these
routers have declared themselves Backup Designated Router
(i.e., they are currently listing themselves as Backup
Designated Router, but not as Designated Router, in their
Hello Packets) the one having highest Router Priority is
declared to be Backup Designated Router. In case of a tie,
the one having the highest Router ID is chosen. If no
routers have declared themselves Backup Designated Router,
choose the router having highest Router Priority, (again
excluding those routers who have declared themselves
Designated Router), and again use the Router ID to break
ties.

(3) Calculate the new Designated Router for the network as
follows. If one or more of the routers have declared
themselves Designated Router (i.e., they are currently
listing themselves as Designated Router in their Hello
Packets) the one having highest Router Priority is declared
to be Designated Router. In case of a tie, the one having
the highest Router ID is chosen. If no routers have
declared themselves Designated Router, assign the Designated
Router to be the same as the newly elected Backup Designated
Router.

(4) If Router X is now newly the Designated Router or newly the
Backup Designated Router, or is now no longer the Designated
Router or no longer the Backup Designated Router, repeat
steps 2 and 3, and then proceed to step 5. For example, if
Router X is now the Designated Router, when step 2 is
repeated X will no longer be eligible for Backup Designated
Router election. Among other things, this will ensure that
no router will declare itself both Backup Designated Router
and Designated Router.[5]

(5) As a result of these calculations, the router itself may now
be Designated Router or Backup Designated Router. See
Sections 7.3 and 7.4 for the additional duties this would
entail. The router's interface state should be set
accordingly. If the router itself is now Designated Router,
the new interface state is DR. If the router itself is now
Backup Designated Router, the new interface state is Backup.
Otherwise, the new interface state is DR Other.

(6) If the attached network is an NBMA network, and the router
itself has just become either Designated Router or Backup
Designated Router, it must start sending Hello Packets to
those neighbors that are not eligible to become Designated
Router (see Section 9.5.1). This is done by invoking the
neighbor event Start for each neighbor having a Router
Priority of 0.

(7) If the above calculations have caused the identity of either
the Designated Router or Backup Designated Router to change,
the set of adjacencies associated with this interface will
need to be modified. Some adjacencies may need to be
formed, and others may need to be broken. To accomplish
this, invoke the event AdjOK? on all neighbors whose state
is at least 2-Way. This will cause their eligibility for
adjacency to be reexamined (see Sections 10.3 and 10.4).

The reason behind the election algorithm's complexity is the
desire for an orderly transition from Backup Designated Router
to Designated Router, when the current Designated Router fails.
This orderly transition is ensured through the introduction of
hysteresis: no new Backup Designated Router can be chosen until
the old Backup accepts its new Designated Router
responsibilities.

The above procedure may elect the same router to be both
Designated Router and Backup Designated Router, although that
router will never be the calculating router (Router X) itself.
The elected Designated Router may not be the router having the
highest Router Priority, nor will the Backup Designated Router
necessarily have the second highest Router Priority. If Router
X is not itself eligible to become Designated Router, it is
possible that neither a Backup Designated Router nor a
Designated Router will be selected in the above procedure. Note
also that if Router X is the only attached router that is
eligible to become Designated Router, it will select itself as
Designated Router and there will be no Backup Designated Router
for the network.

xnx

To answer the question partially the router with the highest router-id will not take over until the current DR is reset

davenull

You will see this concept referred to in other technologies (e.g. HSRP) as 'no preemption'.

Params7

I was about to say that. Imagine DR election process as the same thing as HSRP's except that there is no Pre-emption.

If all those routers were all turned on with a single click, 3.3.3.3 would be the DR. If 3.3.3.3 is being turned on later, DR/BDR would have already been elected between 1.1.1.1 and 2.2.2.2, it will not get DR status until the elected DR's go down.

Alceo

Thanks for the info.
HSRP is a ICND2 topic isn't it? Never seen it mentioned as I'm studying for ICND1.

markulous

Alceo wrote: »

Thanks for the info.
HSRP is a ICND2 topic isn't it? Never seen it mentioned as I'm studying for ICND1.

Correct, it is not on ICND1.