New Versions for CCENT/CCNA

pinkiaiii

does the example thats included above goes same for 200-120 ?

subneting seems sort of needed part to know,frame-relay might as well taken out years ago,ipv6 - no one likes it.
stacking - no idea,etherchannel - pretty straight forward topic,QoS its in many topics yet dunno whats so special about it,eBGT and pounding on OSPF multi area might be a bit tougher.

blatini

I am planning to take my CCNA Security exam in a few months - is it likely that it will receive a similar deadline now that the CCNA has changed?

zzyzz

The ccna security 210-260 was just introduced a couple months back. The test is so new that many test takers are complaining of spelling errors and glitched simulations.

RockinRobin

Good news about the old and new exams can overlap. I will strive to get the CCENT before it retires, then focus on 200-105.

mikeybinec

Seeing as how the new objectives are just several months away, I wonder if the usual authors/suspects (Odom, Lammle, Valentine, etc) are furiously writing new material to help new people get certified after Sept 20th?

theodoxa

pinkiaiii wrote: »

does the example thats included above goes same for 200-120 ?

subneting seems sort of needed part to know,frame-relay might as well taken out years ago,ipv6 - no one likes it.
stacking - no idea,etherchannel - pretty straight forward topic,QoS its in many topics yet dunno whats so special about it,eBGT and pounding on OSPF multi area might be a bit tougher.

Subnetting is still in there. IPv6 is unfortunately here to stay. I just wish they had gone with 64 bit addresses that were interoperable with the old addresses (like 32 bit ASNs vs. 16 bit ASNs). Stacking at the most basic level isn't that complicated. Basically, you connect two or more switches with a special stacking cable and you can then manage them as if they were a single switch. Of course, making sure the IOSes are compatible, etc...can complicate matters.

Basic eBGP is very easy. The only real addition is the neighbors have to be statically configured (you can do this in other routing protocols, but it is usually only required on some NBMA networks) and the network command has to match the network you're advertising exactly (particularly, the mask has to match exactly). QoS is a topic that can get very complicated, but the topics mentioned here seem to be the basics.

pinkiaiii

theodoxa wrote: »

Subnetting is still in there. IPv6 is unfortunately here to stay. I just wish they had gone with 64 bit addresses that were interoperable with the old addresses (like 32 bit ASNs vs. 16 bit ASNs). Stacking at the most basic level isn't that complicated. Basically, you connect two or more switches with a special stacking cable and you can then manage them as if they were a single switch. Of course, making sure the IOSes are compatible, etc...can complicate matters.

Basic eBGP is very easy. The only real addition is the neighbors have to be statically configured (you can do this in other routing protocols, but it is usually only required on some NBMA networks) and the network command has to match the network you're advertising exactly (particularly, the mask has to match exactly). QoS is a topic that can get very complicated, but the topics mentioned here seem to be the basics.

thanks for breaking it down,do remember seeing picture of stacked switches -think they have to be connected in a braided way when stacking them,but dunno cost of them would be quite high - in general,since didnt even seen ones in my lab that had stackable option if correct,ipv6 guess its just natural move to force its movement,so eBGP and QoS would be smth that would be needed for in-depth look,and whatever else will show up.

blatini

zzyzz wrote: »

The ccna security 210-260 was just introduced a couple months back. The test is so new that many test takers are complaining of spelling errors and glitched simulations.

Awesome - No wonder there are so few books on it. Thank you for the info.

ande0255

Now that the refresher chopping block is making its circles again, I would bet my last dollar that the next up is CCNP R/S for a refresh, time to double time on that one, as it seems the NA is more modernized than the NP after this refresh.

mikeybinec

This is amazing, Wendell Odom already has his book ready for the shelves on July 16th. C'MON!!! you don't think Cisco gave him a
heads up. And I aint an Odom fan. the last book I bought was lacking in lots of material. It's gotta take months to write a book . When did Cisco tell him to write a new book?

mikeybinec

Dollarhyde wrote: »

Stacking 3750s with StackWise ports connected with an appropriate cable

So it aint trunking? Do I gotta buy some 3750s for my lab?

PAGING CURTIS LARSON PAGING CURTIS LARSON!!

clarson

in a simplistic sense it can be thought of as trunking. But, does a whole lot more and a lot faster.

I haven't looked at the test topics. And, cisco certainly doesn't tell me about what to study for a test other than what I find on there website just like everyone else. So, here is what I think.

There is no 3750 in packet tracer or other virtual environments. So, unless cisco expects all their schools to get equipment or rack time for their students, actual hardware isn't going to be necessary, at least at the ccna level. I'm thinking you will need to know about it, much like RSTP and MSTP, and licensing on the current test. You will need to know about it, but what you need to know can learned by reading about it. You don't need to go buy hardware (or virtual tools) to learn about just that one topic.

The only topic I see about stacking is this: 2.10 Describe the benefits of switch stacking and chassis aggregation. I don't think it would be necessary to have actual equipment to do this.

volfkhat

ande0255 wrote: »

Now that the refresher chopping block is making its circles again, I would bet my last dollar that the next up is CCNP R/S for a refresh, time to double time on that one, as it seems the NA is more modernized than the NP after this refresh.

Me thinks you would lose that dollar.....

Wasn't the CCNP:RS refreshed in the last 18 months?

ande0255

volfkhat wrote: »

Me thinks you would lose that dollar.....

Wasn't the CCNP:RS refreshed in the last 18 months?

No, the CCNP hasn't been touched for years, they might have revised some of the questions but the ROUTE / SWITCH / TSHOOT have remained the same for maybe 4 or 5 years?

The last refreshes in order that I am aware of was the CCNA R/S, CCNP Security, Entire Voice Track, and now CCNA R/S again (And I think CCNA Security in there somewhere?).

So it seems like they are now making the CCNA R/S a watered down version of the current CCNP R/S, so I think I would be doubling that last dollar.

It seems we should ask Odom when his new books for the NP R/S are coming out

Params7

mikeybinec wrote: »

This is amazing, Wendell Odom already has his book ready for the shelves on July 16th. C'MON!!! you don't think Cisco gave him a
heads up. And I aint an Odom fan. the last book I bought was lacking in lots of material. It's gotta take months to write a book . When did Cisco tell him to write a new book?

Odom writes officially for Cisco. So not unreasonable to assume he got the blueprints a few months early so Cisco could ship a study guide along with the announcement of the new exams. Lammle says his books will be out in a few weeks.

pinkiaiii

dunno if it wasn't Odom what other way they could get out cisco material to teach stuff,i know cisco have their own lab books but its more hands on and not theory stuff that they like.Only find it strange that they make such announcements in a bit of a short way-i get that August date is targeted as people finishing course in college and new students starting on fresh,but at least 6 months time would seem decent ,since you might have someone deciding on whether to take old test or wait a bit and get new material in.Since now im pretty sure id like to avoid many WAN questions or anything related to it,but then again eBGT never heard of it,and doing more advanced studies on OSPF/QoS and ipv6 is equally hard.

Dollarhyde

mikeybinec wrote: »

So it aint trunking? Do I gotta buy some 3750s for my lab?

PAGING CURTIS LARSON PAGING CURTIS LARSON!!

You will probably not need to buy 3750s, as I assume you should just know what stackwise is and how you configure master and things associated with it. Stackwise is essentially extending the super fast backplane between switches. It is much faster than having a trunk.

theodoxa

ande0255 wrote: »

No, the CCNP hasn't been touched for years, they might have revised some of the questions but the ROUTE / SWITCH / TSHOOT have remained the same for maybe 4 or 5 years?

CCNP: R&S was updated January 2015. The previous version ran from 2010-2015. The exam names didn't change like they did in 2010, but the topics were updated (Wireless, Voice, and QoS were removed, AAA and Stacking were added, etc...)

theodoxa

ande0255 wrote: »

The last refreshes in order that I am aware of was the CCNA R/S, CCNP Security, Entire Voice Track, and now CCNA R/S again (And I think CCNA Security in there somewhere?).

(07-2016) CCIE: R&S (Written Exam Only - v5.0 to v5.1)
(12-2015) CCNA: Wireless
(12-2015) CCNA: Security
(10-2015) CCNP: Voice (became CCNP: Collaboration)
(08-2015) CCNA: Voice and CCNA: Video (merged into CCNA: Collaboration)
(01-2015) CCNP: R&S
(07-2014) CCNP: Security
(02-2014) CCIE: Voice (became CCIE: Collaboration)
(12-2013) CCIE: R&S (v4 to v5)
(10-2013) CCNA: R&S

There were a few others in there. I believe Cisco dropped the entire Service Provider Operations line last year.

ande0255

Thank you for update schedule, interesting to see the frequency, still a bit bitter about the voice to collaboration change over

bluejellorabbit

Glad I read on here about this. Didn't know they were planning an update so soon. I hope to take the old version of ICND2 before September.

theodoxa

ande0255 wrote: »

Thank you for update schedule, interesting to see the frequency, still a bit bitter about the voice to collaboration change over

It seemed like every time I started working on a cert, Cisco decided to update it -- CCNA: R&S (2013), CCNP: R&S (2015), CCNA: Voice (2015). I managed to beat the deadline on CCNA easily and barely beat the deadline for ROUTE and TSHOOT (I took the new SWITCH).

zzyzz

I'm planning to take the ICND2 v2 due to the fact that the test might be "glitched" just like the 210-260. I've read so many complaints about the CCNA security test and Cisco not fixing that glitched sim after the test being live for several months.