IT jobs in Russia as an American?

Dzeko2014

Hello, Does anyone that is American work in Russia in IT/Software ? or know someone who does? Ive been to Russia once and liked it. I have a good friend in Russia but hes not in IT so he doesnt know much about this. This is not something I would do for a long time just a couple years.

kalimuscle

Hey buddy,
I am trying to do something similar however with South America, Brazil

Do you speak the language

That might help

look into visa options first !

TechnicalJay

kalimuscle wrote: »

Hey buddy,
I am trying to do something similar however with South America, Brazil

Do you speak the language

That might help

look into visa options first !

Do you speak Portugues?

blatini

Are you trying to die or are you trying to die? :thinking:

gespenstern

This would be a very weird move.

Your best option would probably be working for an American or international company branch there, as local companies don't pay much at all and the market is full of skilled professionals with STEM background, many of which actually moved away from Russia and many others are looking to, but still there's just still too many of them especially in cities. It's hard to compete with them.

Working for a branch of an international company sucks anyways, you probably want to work in HQ to get the best opportunities as opposed to working in branches.

Also, IT in Russia is supplementary in many cases as opposed to be a profit driving factor as in many American companies, therefore it is less respected with the exception of relatively small amount of local companies who sell their products/services internationally.

As a person from Russia I worked there for major companies and government entities such as central bank of Russia via managed security services providers and it always sucked in pay compared to what people get in IT in the US where I moved 3.5 years ago and quadrupled my salary easily.

And I'm not talking about quality of life factors here such as tiny apartments, high crime, crazy driving, huge crowds everywhere to the level when you can barely secure a table for yourself to eat your big Mac or something in a fast food joint.

Also, Russian language is pretty hard to learn. Brian Krebs gave up on this, for example.

JoJoCal19

gespenstern wrote: »

...crazy driving...

The videos I've seen on YouTube alone make me fearful of ever traveling there. Craziness!

gkca

+1 to everything gespenstern said.

jamesleecoleman

What city did you visit? I studied in Tver' for 2.5 months. I really should have did an academic year plus the summer.
I've also looked for IT jobs in Russia.

Try hh.ru and ru.indeed.com

How well do you know Russian?

kalimuscle

TechnicalJay wrote: »

Do you speak Portugues?

I do not speak protugese at the moment but I brought this program to learn it and I am learning it now and each day I am improving and improving and I love learning it !!

Why you ask? Are you from there or lived there?

kalimuscle

If you want to live and work in Russia do so

Live your life! And do what makes you happy!

You only live once! You do not want to be one of those people who does nothing and one day in the future thinks what if ?


I am not trying to offend anyone here and I say this with respect, I honestly do not think that a lot of people understand why he wants to live in Russia, me myself being from the western world it is nice but after a while since you grew up and lived here it gets boring because it’s the same stuff but different days, I guess OP went to Russia and found it to be exotic and enjoyed it so he wants to move there, like his heart got attached?

My suggestion is to look into visa options

Also do you want to permanently move there or live there temporarily like for a year or two? And if you liked it so much make it more of a permanent move?

Try and learn the basics of the language before you go there, no matter how hard it is, if you want it do whatever it takes! , you won’t be fluent but understanding and knowing the basics could help a lot !

Try whatever it takes to find an IT job there, but if you can’t have a backup plan, are you fine to do something else in Russia ? Such as volunteering? Or teaching English Or something in the hospitality industry?

Also do not believe what is being put out on TV or Youtube - seeing something on media and actually going to a country and experiencing it are TWO different things !

And I learned this first hand with traveling !

So….

all I can say to OP is research ! Be prepared and have fun in Russia!

gespenstern wrote: »

This would be a very weird move.

Your best option would probably be working for an American or international company branch there, as local companies don't pay much at all and the market is full of skilled professionals with STEM background, many of which actually moved away from Russia and many others are looking to, but still there's just still too many of them especially in cities. It's hard to compete with them.

Working for a branch of an international company sucks anyways, you probably want to work in HQ to get the best opportunities as opposed to working in branches.

Also, IT in Russia is supplementary in many cases as opposed to be a profit driving factor as in many American companies, therefore it is less respected with the exception of relatively small amount of local companies who sell their products/services internationally.

As a person from Russia I worked there for major companies and government entities such as central bank of Russia via managed security services providers and it always sucked in pay compared to what people get in IT in the US where I moved 3.5 years ago and quadrupled my salary easily.

And I'm not talking about quality of life factors here such as tiny apartments, high crime, crazy driving, huge crowds everywhere to the level when you can barely secure a table for yourself to eat your big Mac or something in a fast food joint.

Also, Russian language is pretty hard to learn. Brian Krebs gave up on this, for example.

gkca

kalimuscle wrote: »

I am not trying to offend anyone here and I say this with respect, I honestly do not think that a lot of people understand why he wants to live in Russia, me myself being from the western world it is nice but after a while since you grew up and lived here it gets boring because it’s the same stuff but different days, I guess OP went to Russia and found it to be exotic and enjoyed it so he wants to move there, like his heart got attached?

It's better to not confuse the tourism with immigration, exotic you say? How about no one speaks English except for the four letter word, no not 'love'? How about the ambulance coming in 40-60 minutes if at all? How about not knowing whom and when and how to bribe? That's not exotic, that's downright dangerous.
And if there's a heart attached, then that girl is dreaming of getting married and getting the !@#$ out of there.

kalimuscle

gkca wrote: »

It's better to not confuse the tourism with immigration, exotic you say? How about no one speaks English except for the four letter word, no not 'love'? How about the ambulance coming in 40-60 minutes if at all? How about not knowing whom and when and how to bribe? That's not exotic, that's downright dangerous.
And if there's a heart attached, then that girl is dreaming of getting married and getting the !@#$ out of there.

Hahah yes there is a difference between tourism vs living there.

But mate have you lived in russia?

Have you experienced it or are you going on what you heard on the internet or what people told you?

Go experience something and then come and write about your experience, what you see and hear and experience are two very different things.

Even if you got treated badly and experienced horrible things it doesnt mean OP or I might if i decide to move to russia.

Then again there are soft people and other people that like adventure and like risks and danger and they get a thrill from it, i guess you are a softie but i dont judge.

Mr keyboard worrior

gkca

kalimuscle wrote: »

But mate have you lived in russia?

Yup, for some thirty-odd years

kalimuscle wrote: »

Mr keyboard worrior

Аффтар жжош, пеши есчо!

tmtex

JoJoCal19 wrote: »

The videos I've seen on YouTube alone make me fearful of ever traveling there. Craziness!

LOL they are great. Demolition derby

tmtex

OP wants to find a girl

kalimuscle

tmtex wrote: »

OP wants to find a girl

Hows Trump Land these days?

IronmanX

This thread has taken a turn and now reminds me of the comedian Bert Kreischer: THE MACHINE
You Tube it. NSFW due to language.

Dzeko2014

What are some American Businesses in Russia ?

Replicon

gkca wrote: »

It's better to not confuse the tourism with immigration, exotic you say? How about no one speaks English except for the four letter word, no not 'love'? How about the ambulance coming in 40-60 minutes if at all? How about not knowing whom and when and how to bribe? That's not exotic, that's downright dangerous.
And if there's a heart attached, then that girl is dreaming of getting married and getting the !@#$ out of there.

lol

Replicon

kalimuscle wrote: »

Hahah yes there is a difference between tourism vs living there.

But mate have you lived in russia?

Have you experienced it or are you going on what you heard on the internet or what people told you?

If he come in one piece then he can write a review on the forum... Jokes aside, I don't think it dangerous or anything like that, especially if you are in Moscow, I would not be worried for security. Bribe only goes if you end up in court or are stopped by policy so to avoid ticket. Other than that, with your US passpordt, expect to experience plenty of Russian blonde love