CCNA on Saturday

Bl8ckr0uter

Well Im going to take the 802 on saturday. I feel like im ready (getting 75-85 percent on practice exams) and I am going to lab my ass off for the next few days. I plan to start CCNA:S, L+, and S+ studies on saturday.


Any last minute things I should go over guys and girls?

elegua

Hi,

Sound like you have covered all the topics for the exam, just one thing, go over how configure NAT, very important topic (i better stop here).

Good Luck.

billscott92787

Good luck on your test man, let us know how it goes! I would review subnetting NAT/PAT, ACL's just hit it all so it's fresh in your mind. Read, read answers, re-read the question, pick the answers and don't spend too much time on a SIM and you'll be fine!

Bl8ckr0uter

Well Im gearing up for the big test. I think I will do a little wan configuration and possibly some switching before I go

miller811

knwminus wrote: »

Well Im gearing up for the big test. I think I will do a little wan configuration and possibly some switching before I go

You can dooooooooooooo it......

billscott92787

You can do it, just remember focus, read the question, read the answers, re-read the question, pick your answers. Don't spend too much time on the labs if you can't get it right. Do the best you can and move on. Hit anything you feel you can't recall to memory before leaving. Good luck and let us know the results

Bl8ckr0uter

Well Im back. Needed 825 and I got a 748. I'm a little mad about it especially the test itself. There were a few questions that I made small mistakes on. I think I will pound the books and lab for 2 weeks and give it a go in november. This is gonna put my further behind DynamiK (no one tell him.. ) but I think I can get 'er done in 2 weeks. I am going to get transcender today and plow through this book on my weak areas, especially wan stuff.

ColbyG

Sorry you failed. Better luck next time.

Ps. You should edit your post to remove the information about the SIM you had, that's against the NDA.

mikej412

2 weeks is about right for 75 points -- but we're going to expect you to be 75 points the other way (900+).

Remember that there is "luck of the draw" on the questions. Some topic you killed this time may have just been a few "powder puff questions" and next time you'll get the "pack of rabid ferret questions" on the topic. So make sure you study & review the stuff you did good on (to keep what you got) -- and then study even harder for the stuff that kicked your butt this time (and hope these were the "pack of rabid ferret questions") and be prepared to make up lots of points on these topics next test (and hope you get the "fluffy bunny questions" on these topics next time).

While you may not see many of the same questions again -- you may see some. So it's worth your time to make sure you fill in any gaps you can remember from the exam.

Good Luck!!

Bl8ckr0uter

mikej412 wrote: »

2 weeks is about right for 75 points -- but we're going to expect you to be 75 points the other way (900+).

Remember that there is "luck of the draw" on the questions. Some topic you killed this time may have just been a few "powder puff questions" and next time you'll get the "pack of rabid ferret questions" on the topic. So make sure you study & review the stuff you did good on (to keep what you got) -- and then study even harder for the stuff that kicked your butt this time (and hope these were the "pack of rabid ferret questions") and be prepared to make up lots of points on these topics next test (and hope you get the "fluffy bunny questions" on these topics next time).

While you may not see many of the same questions again -- you may see some. So it's worth your time to make sure you fill in any gaps you can remember from the exam.

Good Luck!!

Thanks and sorry about the sim issue. You beat me to the edit.
Im was really mad because I thought I had this but oh well.

This experience has taught he a few things:
A: Networking is gonna be tough
B: I need to focus my studies
C: I will not be able to do the CCNP in 6 months, It will probably take me all of next year
That I can do this I just need to push a little harder.

Ultimately I think that it may not be able to get the ccna:S by the end of the year (I may go until January) but that is ok with me (I guess....). At any rate, I was relatively close and I need to spend about 2 (maybe 3 weeks tops) studying to get over the hump. Hopefully I can get this done within 2 weeks and then pick up CCNA:S and kill it before the end of the year. We will see.

Something else I did, I took the time fixed dates off some of my certs. This whole week I wanted to move the ccna until next satuday but I didn't because of A: People at work saying do it now, B: My own pride. I honestly havent did a good study session in over a month. Now I have done some labbing but that apparently wasn't enough. I think I need to study random facts about certain things (Im not sure I can say for NDA). I may take 3 weeks since the coming week I have to work 4 10s and 1 8. At any rate I am going to be done with this soon.

billscott92787

Keep your head up. Just hit the books in your week areas, take it again, and you will pass! Make sure you have a few good study sessions before the next attempt and you will do fine. It always seems like they put something on there and you go "A duh?" It happened to me on one of my sims. CCNP is definitely no joke. You have four different exams currently which is four different books to read. I'm going to attempt my BCMSN on December 10, 2009. A lot of it has been review but there is definitely a lot of new stuff as well. As far as I have heard the monster is the BSCI. You want to make sure you pass and also, make sure that you maintain the material and grasp it. Because if you study just to pass, then if you forget a lot of stuff, it isn't going to do you any good in the long run.

dynamik

I might show a little empathy if you'd ever spell my name right

I don't think I'm going to shoot for NP/SP by the end of 2010. I have an opportunity to do some SANS certs, so I think I'm going shoot for CCNA:S in 2009, CCNP in 2010, and CCSP in 2011. I could probably do it, but I'm finding that I prefer to do Cisco stuff in moderation. The security stuff might be better, but R&S doesn't really hold my attention. I don't want to skip it though since it is the foundation for everything else...

billscott92787

This all shows why there are so many paths to choose from :0 we are all different. So far I love R&S and it has grabbed ahold of me :0 I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing!!!

Bl8ckr0uter

dynamik wrote: »

I might show a little empathy if you'd ever spell my name right

I don't think I'm going to shoot for NP/SP by the end of 2010. I have an opportunity to do some SANS certs, so I think I'm going shoot for CCNA:S in 2009, CCNP in 2010, and CCSP in 2011. I could probably do it, but I'm finding that I prefer to do Cisco stuff in moderation. The security stuff might be better, but R&S doesn't really hold my attention. I don't want to skip it though since it is the foundation for everything else...

I have found this CCNA stuff boring as hell. Like honestly I think I would do better on CCNP test (I started to look at videos on ISCW a while back and they seemed cool) because I could focus on very few technologies and go into greater detail rather than be all over the place. I am hoping (for real this time) to get the CCNA in 3 weeks and maybe CCNA:S in December or early January and start the Linux+/Security+/CCNP run next year (I have a class I have to take for linux so really my self studies would be Security+/CCNP and maybe CWNA, since I have a class for that as well).

The more I think about it, the less I know what I want to do. I would really like to get into linux (I had a fun shell password recovery experience for Ubuntu the other day) but my job (and school ) are forcing me towards network engineering. Oh well. I am going to download transcender later, make a study plan, and (hopefully) pound these books for a few hours, then the labs a few more.

abhustler

I think the CCNA Security is still within reach by the end of the year. The CCNA Security is by FAR easier than the CCNA. You will touch on topics that will still be fresh in your mind from passing the CCNA and I'm sure you will find the Cisco SDM (which is featured heavily on the exam) to be very intuitive. Good luck

Bl8ckr0uter

abhustler wrote: »

I think the CCNA Security is still within reach by the end of the year. The CCNA Security is by FAR easier than the CCNA. You will touch on topics that will still be fresh in your mind from passing the CCNA and I'm sure you will find the Cisco SDM (which is featured heavily on the exam) to be very intutive. Good luck

I hope so. I just want to take it in stride. Hopefully I want get the CCNA+CCNA:S by the end of the year (so that I can look good on my 90 day evaulation with my job at the end of the year). Honestly I did really well (and I was most interested in) security (during the CCNA and my studies) so I think I will take to CCNA:S well. I actually do have the SDM installed on my routers and (like you said) it is very easy to use. Very slick.

Im going to go balls to the walls for the Next 2 months to get this done while im not in school. Hopefully I can rack up 3-4 hour days (weekdays) and 6 hours plus (weekends). I have plans to dive much much deeper into linux and ccnp studies next year but right now, I only want to worry about the 2 NA level certs.

human151

better luck next time. Dont feel bad. I failed the ICND 1 Exam Twice but I ultimately beat it.

Bl8ckr0uter

human151 wrote: »

better luck next time. Dont feel bad. I failed the ICND 1 Exam Twice but I ultimately beat it.

Thanks. I know I can beat this thing. I just downloaded transcender and im going to go all out for about 3 weeks and take it again on the 21st (the day before my birthday). So this will be a birthday gift to my self.

Bl8ckr0uter

Im going to use this thread to help me keep track of my studies, so don't mind me these next notes are just for me, but feel free to read them.

All routers will run EIGRP or OSPF alternating between days unless specified.
All routers will run ipv4, until specified.
All routers will use back to back configuration of Frame Relay and other Wan technologies, unless specified.
All configurations will be cleared before I go to bed to help with repetition and retention, although I may build a standard config for the routers as time goes on.
My goal for the CCNA score: 925+

Monday November 2nd: NAT/ACL
Reread study guide chapters: [X]
Review videos on ACLS and NAT: [X]
Configure NAT at least 10 times and 10 different ways :[ ]
Configure 10 different ACLS (5 standard, 5 extended) : [ ]
Transcender test on NAT/ACL score : [ 62%/25/40 ] - found to be much much harder than the actual test
Transcender test Full score: [ 67%] - found to ask questions I about information I did not come across in my studies
Subnetting questions at least 10: [ ]

Notes:
ACL:
I had forgotten about distributes list, which are ACLs applied to routing protocols. I will lab this out when I am labbing ACLs. Also I haven't applied an ACL to a line in quite a while so this will be something I do as well.
IP standard: Destination 1-99, 1300-1999
IP extended: Source 100-199, 2000-2699
I haven't used switchport ACLs in a while so I will create some when I do switching on Thursday.
Time based ACLs/Reflexitive ACLs/Lock and Key ACLs: I have never used. These seem to be beyond the CCNA level and they will be the subject of some research in the future. I may go into these directlty after I am done with the CCNA.
At some point I need to set up either RADIUS or TACACS on my boxes, along with NTP (which I will use the Time based ACLS with).
Monitoring ACL commands: Show Access-list, Show ip access-list, sh ip int , sh run , sh mac access-group

NAT/PAT:
Static, Dynamic, Overloading
local= before NAT, global= after NAT
Monitoring commands: sh ip nat trans, debug ip nat
Others: ip nat translation mac-entries, clear ip nat translations, sh ip nat stat


Tuesday November 3rd: Wan
Reread study guide chapters: [ ]
Review videos on WAN: [ ]
Configure WAN Technologies 6 Times Each: [ ]
- 3 times back to back, 3 times using FR switch
Configure NAT at least 10 times and 10 different ways :[ ]
Configure 10 different ACLS (5 standard, 5 extended) : [ ]
Transender Test on WAN: [ ]
Transcender test on NAT/ACL score : [ ]
Transcender test Full score: [ ]
Subnetting questions at least 25: [ ]

Notes:

Wed November 4th: VLANS/SWITCHING
Reread study guide chapters: [ ]
Review videos on VLANS/SWITCHING: [ ]
Configure 5 VLANS and STP PORTS: [ ]
Configure WAN Technologies 5 Times Each: [ ]
Configure NAT at least 10 times and 10 different ways :[ ]
Configure 10 different ACLS (5 standard, 5 extended) : [ ]
Transcender Test on VLANS/SWITCHING : [ ]
Transcender Test on WAN: [ ]
Transcender test on NAT/ACL score : [ ]
Transcender test Full score: [ ]
Subnetting questions at least 25: [ ]

Notes:

kevin31

knwminus wrote: »

Im going to use this thread to help me keep track of my studies, so don't mind me these next notes are just for me, but feel free to read them.

All routers will run EIGRP or OSPF alternating between days unless specified.
All routers will run ipv4, until specified.
All routers will use back to back configuration of Frame Relay and other Wan technologies, unless specified.
All configurations will be cleared before I go to bed to help with repetition and retention, although I may build a standard config for the routers as time goes on.
My goal for the CCNA score: 925+

Monday November 2nd: NAT/ACL

Reread study guide chapters: [ ]
Review videos on ACLS and NAT: [ ]
Configure NAT at least 10 times and 10 different ways :[ ]
Configure 10 different ACLS (5 standard, 5 extended) : [ ]
Transcender test on NAT/ACL score : [ ]
Transcender test Full score: [ ]
Subnetting questions at least 25: [ ]

Notes:

Tuesday November 3rd: Wan
Reread study guide chapters: [ ]
Review videos on WAN: [ ]
Configure WAN Technologies 6 Times Each: [ ]
- 3 times back to back, 3 times using FR switch
Configure NAT at least 10 times and 10 different ways :[ ]
Configure 10 different ACLS (5 standard, 5 extended) : [ ]
Transender Test on WAN: [ ]
Transcender test on NAT/ACL score : [ ]
Transcender test Full score: [ ]
Subnetting questions at least 25: [ ]

Notes:

Wed November 4th: VLANS/SWITCHING
Reread study guide chapters: [ ]
Review videos on VLANS/SWITCHING: [ ]
Configure 5 VLANS and STP PORTS: [ ]
Configure WAN Technologies 5 Times Each: [ ]
Configure NAT at least 10 times and 10 different ways :[ ]
Configure 10 different ACLS (5 standard, 5 extended) : [ ]
Transcender Test on VLANS/SWITCHING : [ ]
Transcender Test on WAN: [ ]
Transcender test on NAT/ACL score : [ ]
Transcender test Full score: [ ]
Subnetting questions at least 25: [ ]

Notes:

Looks good that study plan!

Can I ask where you got it from or is it something you devloped yourslef? I have my 802 exam 2 weeks time but worried iam not studying correctly?

thanks


kev

Bl8ckr0uter

kevin31 wrote: »

Looks good that study plan!

Can I ask where you got it from or is it something you devloped yourslef? I have my 802 exam 2 weeks time but worried iam not studying correctly?

thanks


kev

Subnetting I do in 2 parts: 1 is subnettingquestions.com - Free Subnetting Questions and Answers Randomly Generated Online
I will go on that site and do some questions.
The second is during my actual router configuration. I will try to switch up ip addressing schemes, networks, and I try to practice summary routes during my configs as well.