New Job already NOC ---> STIG work IA

Well I left my NOC job after 50 days for a IA compliance job ( STIG ,HBSS)etc..
Better Pay, Even better clearance,better career progression and exposure. Looking forward to the new job but I am also keeping the doors open at the NOC

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DatabaseHead

Dang not even 2 months, do you hop a lot? In the IT field you can get away with this. In other fields pulling a 50 dayer is a death sentence

Be thankful you are in IT! I'm in data and I have a 14 month effort and it was questioned twice, including my current employer. I pulled out some good ole BS which seemed to do the trick.

No_Nerd

Actually I hate hopping and I think this is the first time I have ever done it . The former employer didn't mind to much, because it gets them off the hook for the clearance . I spoke with one of the directors from my old company today and I think everything worked out great. Sadly too many things lined up. The former employer was a bit sad to see me go , but looking forward to working together in a few years .

I should also add that I working to find a replacement for my position and once I can personally vet someone , then I will pas them on to mgt for an interview. We discussed why I took the position and what my goals where.... but mgt seems to be supportive.

Remedymp

DatabaseHead wrote: »

Dang not even 2 months, do you hop a lot? In the IT field you can get away with this. In other fields pulling a 50 dayer is a death sentence

Be thankful you are in IT! I'm in data and I have a 14 month effort and it was questioned twice, including my current employer. I pulled out some good ole BS which seemed to do the trick.

The problem in the IT is as he stated: Better Pay, Better career progression. Far too often a company will post a position like that of NOC and have zero intention of advancing that person beyond what it is that they want this person to do, or, they will post duties of a position and when the candidate is hired, it's entirely different than what they were told.

Too me, IMHO, this is fraud on behalf of the company. I see nothing wrong with leaving a position after 50 days of bullshit.

the_Grinch

The days of not job hopping are over in my opinion. My experience has been any meaningful raise is only to be had by leaving where you are. Company loyalty died out a long time ago and I am doubtful that it will ever return. I had a discussion with my father about this topic since he worked for the same company for 37 years and my mother for over 20 years at her place. As we bantered and he went with the normal lines "your generation doesn't understand loyalty" I could merely counter with the following: "you talk to friends who are still with your company, what do they tell you it's like?"

Fringe benefits gone. Pension no longer an option. Unlimited sick time gone. No raises for the past few years. Offices closed.

I will say I've been with my current place for three years now and two of those involved no raises. I enjoy the work and the people which has kept me here, but don't know how much longer that will be the case.

NetworkNewb

Gratz on the new position!

I am interviewing for Networking position tomorrow at my company and I already talked with the manager who is hiring for it about the position. He straight up told me doesn't expect people in that position to stay at the company more then 2 years because of the experience they get. That if he doesn't have an opening for them to move up they can definitely get paid more elsewhere. Its just the way it is.

DatabaseHead

Maybe where I work isn't the norm, but I see raises 3 - 5% for normal performances even higher if you exceed. Promotions can be 20% internally not to mention you stay in the same environment, in a different role. That's quite a bit of money. 24 days of vacation etc....

I am not seeing it as bad as some of you all. With that said I still look of course, if you can get 30% increase with more skill alignment and other perks I am gone.

Not to lose site congrats on your new gig, hope it's everything you dreamed.

@OP hope I am not coming off like a jerk, but to onboard someone with clearance etc and then bounce that company just lost quite a bit of money on that transaction, I can't see them being okay with it. But hey if you swung that relationship more power to you!

@NetworkNewb There is a big difference between 2 years and 50 days. Chief HR executive from Amazon (I believe could of been another tech company on the radio) states that anything less than 2 years gets tossed in the trashcan. This was from an IT company, we know that is a bit extreme, my point is that if you make it 2 years you are in the clear most of the time from any attacks or questions from HR. 50 days is a lot harder to explain especially if you start to form a pattern of hopping.

coffeeluvr

Congrats on the new job!!

NetworkNewb

DatabaseHead wrote: »

@NetworkNewb There is a big difference between 2 years and 50 days. Chief HR executive from Amazon (I believe could of been another tech company on the radio) states that anything less than 2 years gets tossed in the trashcan. This was from an IT company, we know that is a bit extreme, my point is that if you make it 2 years you are in the clear most of the time from any attacks or questions from HR. 50 days is a lot harder to explain especially if you start to form a pattern of hopping.

Meh, as long as he stays at the next for a year or two it won't matter... 50 days is something you can pretty much just leave off a resume anyways. Since no one puts exact days on resumes would just put Job 1 ended July 2016, Job 2 started August 2016, and there is 50 days somewhere in there that no one sees.

I know I had a contract job a few years back that only lasted 6 weeks that I don't put on resumes. (they had like 3 weeks of actual work and pretty much sat around doing nothing the last 3... Was awful)

No_Nerd

First day of the new job .

Seems to be an IA Audit position which means I will learn alot maybe boring but still I am lucky to pick up a new skill and help the team out . Once I can knock out this CISSP or CASP I can start my second job at night so everything will be great.

volfkhat

NetworkNewb wrote: »

Meh, as long as he stays at the next for a year or two it won't matter... 50 days is something you can pretty much just leave off a resume anyways. Since no one puts exact days on resumes would just put Job 1 ended July 2016, Job 2 started August 2016, and there is 50 days somewhere in there that no one sees.

Exactamente!
I can make my resume say whatever it needs to say.
It's my Life, my Career, my Choice.
(Not Yours)

the Dinosaurs need to go jump into the nearest tar-pit!

I left my last gig after 9 months; but i knew it was a ruff fit in less than 60 days.
so Why the heck would i stay there for 2 years Just because some ass-jack-HR-type thinks i should??

If that same HR rep got a crazy offer tomorrow..... they'd be OUT THE DOOR too!

Remedymp

volfkhat wrote: »

Exactamente!
I can make my resume say whatever it needs to say.
It's my Life, my Career, my Choice.
(Not Yours)

the Dinosaurs need to go jump into the nearest tar-pit!

I left my last gig after 9 months; but i knew it was a ruff fit in less than 60 days.
so Why the heck would i stay there for 2 years Just because some ass-jack-HR-type thinks i should??

If that same HR rep got a crazy offer tomorrow..... they'd be OUT THE DOOR too!

Would have to agree with this.