Network Security/Pen testing etc

At Rob's suggestion, I have started a new thread for this question.

Does anyone do network penetration (professionally or at home, preferably both)? What tools do you use? I am playing with "NMAP" and "Wireshark". I have messed around with older version of backtrack but I just recently downloaded the latest and greatest. I also use "metasploit" for a little while. Anyone use anything else? How about a good test lab. I was thinking that around my CCNA:S studies I would also try to pen the network that I just secured. Anyone have any good book suggestions to learn the basics from Network penetration (from a Network/Security Engineer perspective)? Specifically at Dynamik or Kimanyd, what are some things you study to get more knowledge in the world of network penetration. Mind you I am not an aspiring network pen tester but I do want to know exactly what I am up against.
Also for better skillset would a OSCP or CEH help me in my quest for networking knowledge? Has anyone taken these test and if so were they worth while?

FYI: Our forum doesn't like the word "Metasploit" or "Backtrack". Maybe it thinks they are dirty words

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Paul Boz

well I tell you what. I had a nice big writeup and the forums decided to 403 forbidden my post so......

Bl8ckr0uter

Paul Boz wrote: »

well I tell you what. I had a nice big writeup and the forums decided to 403 forbidden my post so......

You know what? The same thing happened to me. Did you mentioned any tools for pen testing? Is so, put them in quotes and it works. I thought I was crazy but I guess not.

If need be pm me because I want to know what you have to say

kimanyd

Paul Boz wrote: »

well I tell you what. I had a nice big writeup and the forums decided to 403 forbidden my post so......

That happens to me all the time; I hate it.

Sorry dude, I'm not going to even bother

Seriously though, I think most of what we'd say has been said here: http://www.techexams.net/forums/security-certifications/43430-penetration-tester.html