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Hyper-Me

Until support for Server 2008 (probably R2 as well) is ended.

You've likely got another decade or so.

abefroman

Hyper-Me wrote: »

Until support for Server 2008 (probably R2 as well) is ended.

You've likely got another decade or so.

Sweet, thanks!

astorrs

Hyper-Me wrote: »

You've likely got another decade or so.

No, that's a little too generous.

To better meet our customers’ needs, we now retire a certification when mainstream support for the related technology phases out.

So in the case of Win2k8/Win2k8 R2 the end of mainstream support is scheduled for July 9, 2013.

Microsoft Product Lifecycle for Windows Server 2008
Microsoft Product Lifecycle for Windows Server 2008 R2

GagHalfrunt

Personally I think MS is now moving too fast again. No-one wants to upgrade their servers that often do they?!

petedude

GagHalfrunt wrote: »

Personally I think MS is now moving too fast again. No-one wants to upgrade their servers that often do they?!

Good question. No one wants to, but I'm thinking we may be at one of those apexes where technology changes quickly and you may have to keep up with the vendors whether you want to or not.

Not to mention, MS wouldn't want people to certify once and stop, would they?

Look at all the NT4 MCSEs out there who STILL haven't upgraded yet.

Hyper-Me

GagHalfrunt wrote: »

Personally I think MS is now moving too fast again. No-one wants to upgrade their servers that often do they?!

I think so too. They got ridiculed for Vista taking so long but the ridicule was because it took so long AND had issues. We don't an interation of server/client every 3 years as long as each iteration is solid and stable.

Astorrs- WOW! they are hosing R2 before it even really got started.

Devilsbane

Your cert should never expire, the technology gets outdated and then employers don't care about it anymore. There is a point where the exams get retired, that just stops future people from obtaining ther certification. Any certifications already obtained are still valid.

Look at MCSE's on 2000

Devilsbane

astorrs wrote: »

No, that's a little too generous.

So in the case of Win2k8/Win2k8 R2 the end of mainstream support is scheduled for July 9, 2013.

Microsoft Product Lifecycle for Windows Server 2008
Microsoft Product Lifecycle for Windows Server 2008 R2

True, but wasn't XP supposed to originally die in 2007 or 2008 before it was extended several times?

astorrs

humble2007 wrote: »

True, but wasn't XP supposed to originally die in 2007 or 2008 before it was extended several times?

Yes market demands dictated as much (dying for sure this year).

Also the support I'm quoting there (as relevant to the certs) is just mainstream - which means new features, etc. Extended support lasts a few more years and covers only security hotfixes, i,e, Microsoft isn't screwing anyone, this has been their support lifecycle policy for years.

GagHalfrunt

Hyper-Me wrote: »

I think so too. They got ridiculed for Vista taking so long but the ridicule was because it took so long AND had issues. We don't an interation of server/client every 3 years as long as each iteration is solid and stable.

We look after a vast number of Managed Sites all generally running 80% Wintel. The sheer cost & time of keeping it up to date is very high. It's not as simple as doing home Windows upgrades when you have clusters, application dependencies and the like.

If it changes too often it's hard just to keep up... most sites still run Win2003 because a number of software vendors are still not 2008 certified yet.

earweed

humble2007 wrote: »

Your cert should never expire, the technology gets outdated and then employers don't care about it anymore. There is a point where the exams get retired, that just stops future people from obtaining ther certification. Any certifications already obtained are still valid.

Look at MCSE's on 2000

Yeah, MCSE's on 2000 will be MCSE's forever. Unfortunately the MCITPSA/EA when retired is retired, meaning inactive. It still remains on the transcript but will be marked inactive. MS is trying to kind of force people to keep their certifications current even if the marketplace doesn't keep up to it.