rogue2shadow wrote: » I'm right there with you; I'm going to take it on July 1st. I'll keep if at the 8th of july if I don't feel comfortable enough.
rogue2shadow wrote: » That's more than enough time I think. I'm being cautious with this one because the first time I ran through it like 9 months ago, it seemed like a lot to handle but Darill's book is making it extremely easy to organize. Here's my study plan:Read Darill's Book - 2 chapters a day starting tomorrow (currently at chapter 6)/do all quizes involved (June 10-14) CBT Nuggets and review notes from first viewing (June 15-19th) Read Darill's Book again June 20-24th Use Sybex Test Engine from the deluxe edition (June 27) Re-read/Use flash cards with anything I'm still having trouble with (June 28-30) Take test on July 1 (if comfortable)
dynamik wrote: » You're going to kill it. It shares a lot with the CCNA: Security, and I don't think it's going to be anywhere as difficult. I just used the Syngress book and Transcender for mine. Darril's book is a good replacement for the new version of the exam. I'll be taking the CCNA: Sec around that time. I've started and stopped for what seems like a year, so hopefully a couple of weeks of review will get me where I need to be...
Daniel333 wrote: » CCNA:Sec was 5x harder than Sec+ trust me. Maybe watch the Using Security Tools, Linux Security and the 70-298 videos from vtc.com. I found them to be pretty helpful. But really hardest thing in Sec+ studies was just terminology. Get your flash cards ready Best of luck!
Bl8ckr0uter wrote: » Scheduled the test for July 10th. A month should be enough time. I am finishing up chapters 1 and 2 tonight and starting chapter 3 tomorrow.
nicklauscombs wrote: » more than enough time considering you have the ccna security which has a lot of overlap. good luck!
Devilsbane wrote: » From day 1 to test time, how much time do you guys think is needed for security+? I won't be starting my studies for awhile yet, need to get over the 291 hump first. But I am trying to build a rough cert schedule for myself.
rogue2shadow wrote: » I'm on chapter 9 now and have been getting between 86% and 90%+ on the regular chapter tests (I'm finding I miss questions due to not reading some questions carefully enough). If I do well on the end of the book practice exam, I'll move my taking of the exam to the 24th of this month and hopefully when I pass, I can focus on LPIC as well as CCNA and crank the CCNA out sooner than later.
Bl8ckr0uter wrote: » Ok sir Thats good though. That means that I will have someone to study the LPIC exams with. Have you decided on when you are going to do the ICND2 or LPIC-1 yet? Like I told you, I want to do both parts before September or so . Hopefully that isn't to aggressive of me.
rogue2shadow wrote: » Oh nah. Like 9 months ago, I was trying to study for the A+ - Sec+ and CCENT - CCNA Sec as well as some CEH stuff at the same time. I realized very quickly I need to slow things down; the good part about that is that all of it is rooted in my head now so when I go back to my notes and vids, I just have to glance over them and the info comes right back haha. Linux is something I've always been afraid of but with the path I'm choosing I literally have no say in the matter; it must be done. If I can get Sec+ out of the way early, I might take CCNA in August and then LPIC-1 next year but I can still dedicate one or two days to it during the week before schools starts. Linux is completely a fresh experience for me. The only things I know how to do is shutdown -P now, startx, and ls -a lol. If I start to see that the CCNA is just too much for me at this point, I'll go 100% LPIC and just wait for my CCNA class in fall to end before taking it.
Bl8ckr0uter wrote: » IMO I think you should shoot for the CCNA since you just did CCENT. Don't want you to get rusty. *nix is nothing to be afraid of. In fact come friday I am moving my last machine over to UBUNTU (my laptop). I am going to just throw myself in the deep end and if worse comes to worse, I made my recovery disk already lol. You will do fine on the S+ though. You could probably get it done sooner than the 24th. I am trying to teach myself PERL (by the numbers) as well so I may lag behind if you do decided to do LPIC-1 lol. Hopefully I can kill that and get back to cisco. I am having my doubts about doing NA:voice though. I had a conversation w/someone here who basically said I need to make sure I getting certs that will help me. I know the NA:V will help me but I am not sure if it will help me in the way that I want. Who knows though....
Bl8ckr0uter wrote: » IMO I think you should shoot for the CCNA since you just did CCENT. Don't want you to get rusty.
Bl8ckr0uter wrote: » *nix is nothing to be afraid of. In fact come friday I am moving my last machine over to UBUNTU (my laptop). I am going to just throw myself in the deep end and if worse comes to worse, I made my recovery disk already lol.
rogue2shadow wrote: » I think whats scaring me is the renewal process for having all these certs in the end game. ISC2 has the CPEs IE would be every two years Regular Cisco exams is every three (which is okay) OSCP (I'm not sure) SANS has CPEs I believe EC-Council - I think CPEs but not sure The study material wouldn't be a problem because I love learning but its just whether there would be enough time to maintain all these certs.
rogue2shadow wrote: » ISC2 has the CPEs IE would be every two years Regular Cisco exams is every three (which is okay) OSCP (I'm not sure) SANS has CPEs I believe EC-Council - I think CPEs but not sure The study material wouldn't be a problem because I love learning but its just whether there would be enough time to maintain all these certs.
dynamik wrote: » I've done this a few times, and it's been much less effective than I had hoped. If it's a desktop system, you'll use it like a desktop system. If you want to learn, really learn, just do a bare-bones install of CentOS, Debian, etc. with no GUI, and have it.
dynamik wrote: » A CCIE written every two years will renew your CCIE and all your other Cisco certifications, if you get to that level. I don't think the OSCP technically expires, but they regularly come out with new versions. It's a couple hundred dollars for the new material (at least this time around). ISACA, (ISC)2, SANS, and EC-Council have CPEs (or equivalent, they sometimes call them different things). There is usually overlap between all them, so it's not as bad as it sounds. You can always just opt to retake the exams if you don't want to deal with CPEs. Also keep the cost of the maintenance fees in mind (where applicable). Those can add up to be a decent amount.
Bl8ckr0uter wrote: » That's why you need to lower your attack surface. CCIE will renew all of the cisco exams, not just the IE. So if you do the IE written your CCXP and CCNA will be renew. Sans certs are every 4 years, or GSE, or CPEs I believe. EC courncil has CPEs but I have heard they are bull. OSCP is forever valid (I think). Me personally, I don't want a lot of certs because people will think if you have that cert you must know all of the information related to the cert. It could come back to bite you in the ass come interview time. I'd rather have a few, big name, valuable certs than many certs.
rogue2shadow wrote: » Very true. Here comes the royal cut on my cert list haha.
Bl8ckr0uter wrote: » I mean this is just my opinion. There are some people here who seem to have every cert under the sun. There are others who have very few. Do what works for you. I just know from my experience and limited certifications that people (specifically IT people) will expect you to know every single piece of information on the test AS WELL AS things they THINK you should know if you have a cert. This holds especially true in IT interviews. I did an interview for a Network Tech job and they saw that I have my NA and NA sec. They started asking me questions about BGP, QOS, MPLS, etc because they assumed that because I had the NA I should know ALL about that (I didn't and still don't ). My point is just make sure you can live up to all of those certs AND what people may think you should know and you will be cool. That's why I am going to have relatively few certs because I want to make sure I know EVERYTHING on the test.
rogue2shadow wrote: » True. Thinking about now too, its about ROI as well. If I were to get the VP and IP just for renewal sake it may look good but personally I wouldn't feel it helping in the end if I'm expected to be the VP guy when my focus is on security. I've noticed the age of old trend of employers liking people specialized in one or two areas that can be modal as opposed to one person with 50 certs without a focus. As you said though, it depends on the person.
Bl8ckr0uter wrote: » Exactly!!! This could not be more true! IMO I think at least the material from the CCIP will be worth it and I do want to do it (not sure if I am going to though). I don't think VP is in my future, regardless if I do CCNA:V or not. Truth be told I really don't want to do CCNP but I am going to just for HRs sake. Now if the new CCSP is called CCNP:Security then I probably won't do CCNP since I will already have the letters on my resume.
rogue2shadow wrote: » I'll most likely do the same. I will use the CCNA or CCNA Security to renew every 3 years (tell me if this doesn't work lol). In the end it works out because I can use either of these exams to constantly reinforce the basics and as the exam is constantly changed, the original topics will be renewed in my mind on top of the experience I will be getting.
