Motivation - Worlds First 7 x CCIE

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Congratulations to Neil Moore - 7 x CCIE #10044!

And to think I am happy with passing just my first CCIE!

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Essendon

Jesus!! This's a superhuman effort. Incredible!

His LinkedIn profile, Neil Moore | LinkedIn

NetworkVeteran

I wonder what his motivation was. I have a hard time seeing profitability beyond dual CCIEs.

down77

I have a close friend who is a Double Double (2 x CCIE, 2 x JNCIE) and he is working on additional CCIE paths. It stops being about profitability and becomes more of a personal or professional challenge.

My long term goal is to achieve more than one CCIE track, but I don't have the desire to go after that many. Regardless, seeing someone with 7xCCIE is a very impressive accomplishment!

nel

wowza! Hat off to you sir

carterw65

Good heavens, and I am struggling with R&S. What manner of man is this???

gorebrush

That is pure awesome! An inspiration indeed.

I'm already thinking about 2nd and 3rd CCIE's and there's a 4th I could easily swallow up purely out of interest (Voice)

aaron0011

More than two CCIE's is pointless IMO unless you just get bored and want to master a new technology. Get Routing & Switching and whatever specialty you enjoy most and go make money. I guess some guys just enjoy the challenge but you can only make so much money being a technical resource for a large company. I guess I have too many hobbies as even one CCIE may be out of my reach.

Also, I wonder if this guy stays up to date on all the tracks or just finishes one and moves onto the next when it's time to recertify. A CCIE Voice from 2006 learned on CM 4 won't do you much good if your not using the product and staying current. Think this guy could design a multi-cluster CUCM environment on 9.1 with globalized dial plan integrated with Unity Connection, Presence, UCCE without having to do a ton of learning and prepwork? I doubt it.

NetworkVeteran

aaron0011, that's along the lines of my thinking. With respect to profitability/usefulness, I can see CCIE R&S plus a CCIE in your specialty area being very helpful. I can also see the benefits of a CCDE, CCNAs in non-core areas, multi-vendor certifications, and keeping abreast of emerging technologies as competitive advantages.

Seven CCIEs seems more like a personal hobby. Which is okay! We all have hobbies, and he's clearly the top of his--besides knowing much more than most of us about networking. Kudos to the over-achiever.

Now, if he goes into certification teaching, perhaps this fame is helpful!

Asif Dasl

First off I don't know if he is or not for 100% sure. But, your Einstein's, Newton's, Darwin's all were on the Autistic spectrum, there is a good chance he is on the Autistic spectrum. His brain is wired differently from "normal" people. In short, he's a genius.

powmia

It doesn't take a genius to get a CCIE. Which means it doesn't take a genius to get 7. Just the right motivation, be it monetary, pleasure, or just boredom.

aaron0011

NetworkVeteran wrote: »

Now, if he goes into certification teaching, perhaps this fame is helpful!

This, completely agree.

thadizzy

aaron0011 wrote: »

More than two CCIE's is pointless IMO unless you just get bored and want to master a new technology. Get Routing & Switching and whatever specialty you enjoy most and go make money. I guess some guys just enjoy the challenge but you can only make so much money being a technical resource for a large company. I guess I have too many hobbies as even one CCIE may be out of my reach.

Also, I wonder if this guy stays up to date on all the tracks or just finishes one and moves onto the next when it's time to recertify. A CCIE Voice from 2006 learned on CM 4 won't do you much good if your not using the product and staying current. Think this guy could design a multi-cluster CUCM environment on 9.1 with globalized dial plan integrated with Unity Connection, Presence, UCCE without having to do a ton of learning and prepwork? I doubt it.

That was my plan aswell and the reason I'm having a hard time motivating myself for a third track. I'm already having a tough time keeping up with all progress in both fields. Do not really like the idea of having an expert certification for a track I no longer master, that would just feel pointless.

powmia

If I started building data centers to the point that I was motivated enough to get my CCIE DC, I'm not going to wait two years to intentionally let 6 CCIEs expire before I take my CCIE DC written. He's obviously not retarded

Props to him for moving forward.

spiderjericho

That is crazy (that ish cray). Awesome accomplishment. Maybe he'll walk on the moon next.

He'd make a great consultant. Might as well go for his CCDE and architect.

I can see myself getting 1 IE, possibly 2. But afterward, I'd probably go for a Juniper expert, a Masters or PhD (or maybe just enjoy life).

powmia

spiderjericho wrote: »

That is crazy (that ish cray). Awesome accomplishment. Maybe he'll walk on the moon next.

He'd make a great consultant. Might as well go for his CCDE and architect.

I can see myself getting 1 IE, possibly 2. But afterward, I'd probably go for a Juniper expert, a Masters or PhD (or maybe just enjoy life).

I like my tech a lot, and get much enjoyment out of becomming good at it... but yeah, I'm going to hit my "enough is enough, let's go golfing" stage long before 7 CCIEs!

spiderjericho

powmia wrote: »

I like my tech a lot, and get much enjoyment out of becomming good at it... but yeah, I'm going to hit my "enough is enough, let's go golfing" stage long before 7 CCIEs!

Gotta catch them all.

I applaud his dedication and the fact he passed 7 extremely difficult exams. I also can appreciate a goal orientated person but there is no ROI for 7 CCIE, besides personal gratification. But I don't know Mr. Moore, is he an instructor at INE? I could see the value then.

Now if my employer would pay for 7 CCIEs, I'm all for it.

Zartanasaurus

It's funny that he works for HP too.

TechGuy215

#holysh*t

Quite an accomplishment!

Mrock4

7 CCIEs is insane IMO, but you'd be able to demand some pretty nice rates as a consultant- being an expert in 7 different areas and all.

spiderjericho

So HP has a 7X CCIE and 2 CCARs?

QHalo

He's not an instructor for INE, he took the CCIE DC class with Brian McGahan because they're both in Chicago.

OT - Zartan did you start CCIE DC yet?

slinuxuzer

What a bad bad man. I can only dream.

RouteMyPacket

Very cool, to each his own. I work with 2x, 3x, 4x IE's and no longer look at CCIE as some insurmountable obstacle. I see myself getting it someday, perhaps even a second. Depends on what you want to be an expert at

JustFred

That is really exceptional. Congrats to Neil.

instant000

spiderjericho wrote: »

So HP has a 7X CCIE and 2 CCARs?

HP probably needs guys like this to support their services strategy.

The rumor was that HP did hire the first 2 CCAr. I heard this from bradreese.com a while back. I'm revealing the source because that guy seems to have a bone to pick with Cisco. That is, it might be considered a biased source.

veritas_libertas

Incredible. Is he a robot? LOL

theodoxa

I thought I read that there was only ONE CCIE DC in the entire world, mainly because the lab equipment costs over 1 MILLION DOLLARS, hence its nickname "The Million Dollar CCIE". Was that this guy or is he the second?

» CCIE Data Center Hardware Cost Estimate Fryguy's Blog

theodoxa

There's only 4 CCIE Tracks that I have any interest in: Routing & Switching, Voice (My Favorite, but sadly being retired), Security, and Service Provider.

Zartanasaurus

QHalo wrote: »

OT - Zartan did you start CCIE DC yet?

I bought the INE workbooks and added a bunch of material to my Safari Books shelf, but the problem is lab time. INE is booked solid for like a month out and it's not like I have a spare UCS and Nexus 5K/2K lying around at work.

silver145

^ No commitment.