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chronos42 wrote: » I'll let someone else give you more specific career and direction-oriented advice, as I'm not much farther in my career than you are, and there are voices here likely much more valid than mine. However, I want to address your feeling that you wasted time in college. This brings to mind one of my major life philosophies, which relies on a microeconomics concept: sunk costs. You are likely aware what a sunk cost is, but for reexplanation - any payments into something that have already been made (time, money, effort, whatever) and cannot be taken back should be irrelevant to decisions going forward, since you can't change what's been done. All you can do right now is look at where you are and say, "What do I want to go moving forward? What do I enjoy? What will provide me the best opportunities?" From there, make your decision. The fact that you have an accounting degree is nice if you choose the accounting route, but it should not factor into your decision going forward, as it's a sunk cost that you can't change. Do what you love. If it's accounting, great. If it's something else, take an immediate turn and don't look back.
tkerber wrote: » Welcome aboard!I would highly recommend Security+ for starters. It has a lot of really good foundation level knowledge that you will build on later on in your career and it fills some electives for other certs. I think you’re also in a good position because it sounds like you’re kind of the go to IT guy. So you could even use your own company’s network as sort of an example by analyzing it and seeing if there is anything that needs improving or patching. I’m not in the security field but I’ve dealt with a lot of security and can say that it’s definitely in demand. IMO anyone who works in IT should have at least a basic understanding of security and security concepts.
doobu wrote: » Yeah. If I were to seek something outside of accounting, it's a sunk cost. The feeling of dread is just the waste of money. I hate wasting it. Can't get it back though. I was hired on an accountant, but they saw I had some expertise with computers...and literally day 1 it has been everything related to it. Christ, I'm even photoshopping.
chronos42 wrote: » I got a business management degree, graduated in 2012. Got a marketing internship in my last semester, which turned into a full-time job. Six months later, the IT department hired me on, and I love it. IT is now my life. Maybe I could regret paying out for a business degree when I'm just going to do networking for the rest of my life, but that ignores the fact that there's value in having any college degree, not just one relevant to your field. Having that degree says that you have the drive to work through something to a great extent, and that's something employers absolutely look for. Short version: The degree you have doesn't matter. The fact that you have a degree does.
doobu wrote: » So, what I have been doing this year and a half..is that considered help desk work? I feel like I am basically on call. Remoting in, installs, re-installing windows (so...many times...so many viruses..).. I have a pretty good grasp on business management and cash flows, and all the other things that helps run a business, along with this IT "support" position. The calls to our tech vendor have dropped to almost nil. In fact, I'm the only one who calls them.
MSP-IT wrote: » Lok'tar friend, You're in a tough spot. I, luckily, got out of the business/account degree when I realized that I wanted to do IT around my sophomore year. As far as leveraging your degree goes, it could be a compliment to a graduate degree in IS. Is a M.S. IS out of the question? Are you interested in going back to school? Maybe you can look in the financial sector for IT work. If you're interested in Security, I'd definitely recommend looking at the Security+ and the CCENT/CCNA (as opposed to the Network+). With accidental experience, you're already a few steps ahead those who are looking to get their foot in the door. If I were you, I'd figure out more of a concrete plan for the type of role you're looking at within security and position yourself accordingly.
chronos42 wrote: » Certainly sounds like help desk to me, in everything but actual title!
aftereffector wrote: » I wish I had an accounting degree. My history degree is much less useful in almost every situation - but it's a degree! You will get a lot of ROI from your accounting degree as you progress through your career. It's a huge value added to be able to understand business and finance as an IT manager, for instance. You can always pick up the IT-specific knowledge as you go along.
doobu wrote: » Our IT vendor (who I talk to candidly a lot) said he basically used to live here fixing computer complaints. Now he's rarely here. I'm pretty much the IT department/guidance for our clinic. If I don't know it, I find out how to get it or how to do it. We've had some breaches, DDoS attacks, etc. recently and the aspect of security is fascinating to me. Where would I make my first step into such a field?
doobu wrote: » Does it count I hear "Help" every ten minutes?:)
doobu wrote: » Blood and honor, friend! No, no more college for now. Money would be the biggest hindrance. I actually took CCNA in the late 90s while in high school but never completed it. I recall quite a bit from it, actually. Mostly basics of networking. None of it scares me. It's all fun. I certainly would love to be in the finance sector doing something IT/accounting related. I had considered the CISA Security+ path...but I don't have the accounting experience because I'm getting nothing but IT experience!
iBrokeIT wrote: » You already walked a mile past your first step! Seriously though, you already have your first IT job which is always the hardest part about the field - getting your first break. A degree is just a box that you have already checked off. My boss who is exetremely technical has a Physics degree, the Sr Engineer doesn't have a degree and I am working on my B.S. If I were you, I would skip the Comptia certs go straight in the CCNA then CCNA:Security. Talk to your boss and let him know you really enjoy taking care of all their IT needs but you could use some IT training. A CBTNuggets.com or Pluralsight subscription would probably be a good start. Cheers!
MSP-IT wrote: » Did you actually get the CCNA certification? Your accounting degree could definitely be in use with a financial risk type position. Though the further along you get within that business line, the less technology you deal with. If you're really looking to make it into serious IT quickly, I'd take a stab at the CISA once you hit the experience requirement and maybe go for a CISSP Associate (not too hard).
doobu wrote: » Yeah, paying for the certs is a no go. I work in healthcare and we're a small-medium clinic. We do well, but I see the cash flows and the money isn't there. I don't plan on staying since there is no room to grow... Why the CCNA and then CCNA: Security? Would Security+ be more "Generic" as in applicable to more than one vendor?
iBrokeIT wrote: » Security+ IS just generic theory about best practices, types of encryption and attacks. Studying for and passing the CCNA will actually teach you technical skills that are in demand. If the Security+ interests you then by all means take it but the CCNA will open more doors for you and give you a better return for your time and money. After you have the CCNA(R&S) then you go down the Cisco security track and work with and configure ASA IPS and IDS systems.
Khaos1911 wrote: » You may want to put those accounting/auditing type skills to use within your IT aspirations. Read up on Information Assurance and the IT Auditing world, my firs Internship I was exposed to being the IT guy responsible for preparing and responding to IT auditing reports, dealing with Sarbanes Oxley, and working closely with auditors, which was a interesting change of pace from my normal IT functions back then.
iBrokeIT wrote: » Go check the various job boards in your area. After a very quick google it looks like this a pretty standard one for entry level work:Support Specialist II - Field Engineer Jobs in Memphis, TN - Konica Minolta Business Solutions
Khaos1911 wrote: » Didn't realize you were here in Memphis
doobu wrote: » ...but I feel like I wasted my time in college.
John-John wrote: » You did not waste your time if that is what got you the job you have now, and there are many soft skills you may have picked up that are helping you that you might not be aware of. But as far as moving forward; Now that you are the de facto IT guy you should let your employer know that is what you are interested in doing. Maybe they will give you a position that is more suited to that and then it won't even matter what you majored in. For example, my Cisco teacher got his PhD in Music Theory. He found he couldn't get a job doing that so he started doing programming for the local utility company. The degree just shows you are able to learn.
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