CCSP / CCIE Sec career perspective

Dear members,

I was searching around on LinkedIn network engineer's profiles employed at ISPs/Telcos in UK.

I noticed that most Telco (Sky, BT, Vodafone) companies tend to hire CCIEs in Service Provider.

I was wondering if you could draw the demarcation line between the two types of CCIEs and the type of roles and companies somebody could possibly land. I might make a wrong assumption, but I think that CCIE Sec is required for boutique companies rather than large enterprise networks like ISP and Telco. Even though Network Security involves any company.

Also, I was curious to ask if it's always required to obtain the CCIE R/S before to move into any specific track.

Kind Regards.

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joelsfood

My impression is that most telcos/ISPS are looking for people with CCIE RS or CCIE SP. CCIE Security I see more at security consultancies or large companies that have their own fully staffed IT security company.

Other tracks definitely do not require you to have CCIE R&S first. I'll be sitting my CCIE Data Center lab next friday, and the only thing I have in R&S track is a long expired CCNA.

Alex90

Can't speak for the service provider side of things but you do not have to do a CCIE R/S before doing another track. Mark Snow for example is a CCIE x 4 I think, none of which are in R/S. I also have a couple of CCIE Voice/Collab friends who don't have a CCIE R/S.

SeekBytes

Thank you for replying.

In case I would like to find out information about the job role and the companies as CCIE sec. Could you help me to have a better picture?

Kind Regards.

deth1k

Don't forget that ISPs have business units which tend to have Security Architects / SOC teams, so a CCIE in security is a big bonus on your CV

Also bear in mind all of ISPs you've listed run on Juniper / Alcatel

chmod

I work on the ISP side, but i work for a vendor.

I have seem that the ISPs have their local certified and extremely good engineers, but the majority of the work and higher certified people i see it on the vendor and consultant side.

The ISPs where i live, have their own people but for big projects hire the vendor and-or consultant companies to deploy or help support the new deployments, projects, etc.

I know a CCIE on security he was working for the consultant company that america mobile hires/has contract with for their audits, security consultancy and that supports the new deployments related with security that they have.
He also works for other ISPs projects.

SeekBytes

Thank you for the answers.

I wanted to be sure we talk the same language. When you say "the vendor" you mean the Cisco Partner that sells the equipment and offer its expertise for consulting. Am I correct?

Kind Regards.

chmod

SeekBytes wrote: »

Thank you for the answers.

I wanted to be sure we talk the same language. When you say "the vendor" you mean the Cisco Partner that sells the equipment and offer its expertise for consulting. Am I correct?

Kind Regards.

The company that develops the hardware-software. U name it: Cisco, Juniper, HP, Ericsson, Huawei.