C|EH Exam Price Increase as of Nov 1st

This is just something I wanted peeps to be aware of before they went out to purchase their exam vouchers now if you didn't already know. I went to go see how much their vouchers would be if I was to attempt the exam again, I was a little confused as to why the price had increased. So I emailed EC-Council to ask why the price jump and here is their response:

"Hi Juscoolin,

Yes there has been a price increase for Pearson VUE since November 1st 2015.

You can opt to take the exam at ECC Exam Center with our online proctoring partner, ProctorU. You can take the exam from home or from your office, taking away the hassle of going to a test center.

As for the breakdown, the exam team is working on it and will forward it to you once it is ready.

Thank you."

So it sho show $500 f ECC Exam centers and $600 for PEARSON VUE centers. I wonder why the increase was needed.

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cehv9

JusCoolin wrote: »

You can opt to take the exam at ECC Exam Center with our online proctoring partner, ProctorU. You can take the exam from home or from your office, taking away the hassle of going to a test center.

How do they proctor the exam if one takes it from home? Whats the use of going to an exam center, if I can give the exam from home?

wayne_wonder

I said this in another thread are they joking?! Or os it Pearson Vue I might as well take the Oscp

IronmanX

cehv9 wrote: »

How do they proctor the exam if one takes it from home? Whats the use of going to an exam center, if I can give the exam from home?

I believe they require a web cam on you the whole time and monitor what is on your screen. I imagine they would want a shot of the whole room as well, you could have a white board off camera.

I believe I have read that they have done exams like this before. I had to drive 2 hours to my closest pearson vue testing centre.

TK1799_st

A pen camera could capture everything...wow...this "new" way ECC is doing business is going to ruin their name, reputation, and only give cred's to their competition. I work with a highly intelligence guy - he took GPEN, which stated that ECC stole everything from them to produce the CEH course/exam. He then took CEH bootcamp later and walked out with the cert (since the exam at the time was drawn from the actual official material taught at the boot camp) he stated it was a joke. He relies more on his GPEN than CEH, which he let expire. So - in a way, I'm glad I had the experience I did so I didn't waste any more time on continuing education credits on a cert that is losing repuation among the IT security industry....Glad I'm into OSCP - it's straight forward and producing real results.

IronmanX

TK1799_st wrote: »

A pen camera could capture everything...wow...this "new" way ECC is doing business is going to ruin their name, reputation, and only give cred's to their competition. I work with a highly intelligence guy - he took GPEN, which stated that ECC stole everything from them to produce the CEH course/exam. He then took CEH bootcamp later and walked out with the cert (since the exam at the time was drawn from the actual official material taught at the boot camp) he stated it was a joke. He relies more on his GPEN than CEH, which he let expire. So - in a way, I'm glad I had the experience I did so I didn't waste any more time on continuing education credits on a cert that is losing repuation among the IT security industry....Glad I'm into OSCP - it's straight forward and producing real results.

Ummmm What?
Whats is this about a pen camera?

Do you see the irony in your post??? Hint: Where do you write the OSCP exam?

GPEN Cost – $999 (or $579 if you take the accompanying SANS course).

IronmanX

TK1799_st wrote: »

I work with a highly intelligence guy - he took GPEN, which stated that ECC stole everything from them to produce the CEH course/exam

CEH has been accused of plagiarism but not off of GPEN.

"Ethical Hacking and Countermeasures: Threats and Defense Mechanisms by EC-Council / Cengage Learning's Course Technology / Michael Goldner - Heavy Plagiarism"

cyberguypr

GIAC tests are now $1,149 or $659 with the training.

BillV_

cehv9 wrote: »

How do they proctor the exam if one takes it from home? Whats the use of going to an exam center, if I can give the exam from home?

How is it that you're an instructor for the CEH yet you have so many questions around the program and don't seem to be familiar with much of it?

BillV_

cehv9 wrote: »

How do they proctor the exam if one takes it from home? Whats the use of going to an exam center, if I can give the exam from home?

https://www.proctoru.com/faq.php

impelse

I like more the direction to proctor the exam, save you a lot of time and reduce the stress.

Now talking about the certification prices, this is becoming worse, so people like us trying to get certification are making less affordable.

danny069

Well it's a good thing I purchased my voucher back in September, I saved myself $100.

TechGuru80

Before you jump on EC-Council about this...did you ever consider maybe Pearson is charging more for proctoring? Not to say that is a fact but you never know. There is no question the certification vendors make a lot of money but certifications and requirements are not going away. I am not a huge fan of entry certifications being expensive because you do not want to make the entry barrier high but once you get to intermediate and up, I do not see as much of a problem. C|EH is still considered at least an intermediate level exam (or Advanced if you look at CompTIA's roadmap). I think a good price point would total around $200 for entry (Network+, Security+, etc.), $400-$500 (intermediate), $1,000 (advanced / expert). Those seem fairly reasonable to me as long as you get enough out of the certification.

cehv9

BillV_ wrote: »

How is it that you're an instructor for the CEH yet you have so many questions around the program and don't seem to be familiar with much of it?

That's a very valid question. Thank You for asking. It leads me to some important pointers which I want everyone here spending their time and money on CEH to know. I am not an employee of EC Council. Just an employee of one of their training partners.

The tards at EC-Council are never clear on communication. They make abrupt decisions and then make you search for answers. The result is mega confusion!
When they update(if I can call it an update) their course content, nobody bothers to inform us of whats coming so we can prepare better.
They do not seem to have any train the trainers program that I am aware of. I am having to train students on what I know from my past experience.
What I can gather from all this is that EC-Council have a great marketing team. The focus is to give the student some "so called" knowledge and make a profit while at it.

I personally discourage people from doing any further EC-Council courses cause why would you take on more ****?

TranceSoulBrother

Personally, I'm only taking the CEH/CHFI since they're part of the WGU curriculum. This whole debacle, coupled with the trashing they've been receiving on the net for the past few years, makes me leary about the whole company. Too bad that they receive most of their validity from their inclusion in the DoD 8570 directive.

OctalDump

TechGuru80 wrote: »

I am not a huge fan of entry certifications being expensive because you do not want to make the entry barrier high but once you get to intermediate and up, I do not see as much of a problem. C|EH is still considered at least an intermediate level exam (or Advanced if you look at CompTIA's roadmap).

The way I look at CEH is that it is an entry level penetration testing certification, but penetration testing is a security specialisation that assumes a reasonably large amount of knowledge. I'm guessing that a reasonable number of people taking it are trying to change career tracks, so maybe the cost is an issue since their current employer might be less willing to fund it. That might be a stretch, though.

TK1799_st

IronmanX wrote: »

Ummmm What?
Whats is this about a pen camera?

Do you see the irony in your post??? Hint: Where do you write the OSCP exam?

GPEN Cost – $999 (or $579 if you take the accompanying SANS course).

The irony would come during the interview where one could not talk about the procedures and techniques...one would be dimed out pretty quickly - or if one was sat in front of a PC and given a VM system to hack into - it would come out...CEH doesn't give one that ability....just 125 questions...I was lead astray - and hold that one who really wants to learn - do it correctly - and have the best outcome...would sttay away from CEH altogether...and learn what is being used...that's all I'm saying -- you're choice...

TK1799_st

TranceSoulBrother wrote: »

Personally, I'm only taking the CEH/CHFI since they're part of the WGU curriculum. This whole debacle, coupled with the trashing they've been receiving on the net for the past few years, makes me leary about the whole company. Too bad that they receive most of their validity from their inclusion in the DoD 8570 directive.

8750 is now being replaced by DoD 8140.01 August 11, 2015 -- it's being written and from the meetings I've been in - CEH has not received a very good recommendation from others working in cyber security....

TechGuru80

OctalDump wrote: »

The way I look at CEH is that it is an entry level penetration testing certification, but penetration testing is a security specialisation that assumes a reasonably large amount of knowledge. I'm guessing that a reasonable number of people taking it are trying to change career tracks, so maybe the cost is an issue since their current employer might be less willing to fund it. That might be a stretch, though.

Bingo... Pentesting is not an entry level position. I refer to entry level as where most people will break into the industry...which is not pentesting. I do not think it helps if we have tons of people running around with script kiddie knowledge without at least some prior knowledge. I would be a fan of requiring some type of prerequisite certification or at least a year experience in Infosec if not two...instead of people just going to the class to qualify.

IronmanX

TK1799_st wrote: »

8750 is now being replaced by DoD 8140.01 August 11, 2015 -- it's being written and from the meetings I've been in - CEH has not received a very good recommendation from others working in cyber security....

I read 8140.01 as they are updating the directive. Its not like they are scrapping the old directive and are going to be changing what certs you need for which jobs.

"1. PURPOSE. This directive:a. Reissues and renumbers DoD Directive (DoDD) 8570.01 (Reference (a)) to update andexpand established policies and assigned responsibilities for managing the DoD cyberspaceworkforce.b. Authorizes establishment of a DoD cyberspace workforce management council to ensurethat the requirements of this directive are met. The council will be comprised of representativesfrom the Offices of the DoD Chief Information Officer (DoD CIO), Under Secretary of Defensefor Personnel and Readiness (USD(P&R)), Under Secretary of Defense for Policy (USD(P)),Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (USD(I)), the Joint Staff, the Director, NationalSecurity Agency/Chief, Central Security Service (DIRNSA/CHCSS), and other DoDComponents.c. Unifies the overall cyberspace workforce and establishes specific workforce elements(cyberspace effects, cybersecurity, and cyberspace information technology (IT)) to align, manageand standardize cyberspace work roles, baseline qualifications, and training requirements. Thisdirective does not address operational employment of the work roles. Operational employmentof the cyberspace workforce will be determined by the Joint Staff, Combatant Commands, andother DoD Components to address mission requirements."

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/814001_2015_dodd.pdf