germangiant wrote: DarklyWise, I don't know where you are looking for routers but you can get 2501's for less than $75 on ebay if you keep your eyes open. I bought them there. Plus if you buy the equipment you can do everything with it even after you are done with the CCNA. You can't really do that with the Simulator. Plus you are getting some hands on at least on some equipment. Hope this helps, GermanGiant