What's the most entry level "developer" job, and how much education does it take?

mxmaniac

Just wondering if its something I could realistically persue.

I've been completely unsuccessful finding an entry level helpdesk, desktop support, noc, type job. Despite having an A+, Net+, a solid personal tech experience portfolio, and a year as an internet/voip installation technician. I heard developers are in high demand, but are there any entry level positions at all that can be obtained with just a basic cert, or do they all require a degree and programming knowledge?

fuz1on

mxmaniac wrote: »

or do they all require a degree and programming knowledge?

Pretty much man. I did a lot of full stack development in the past few years and I didn't really get many fish chomping on my bait until I started dual AS degrees in Computer Programming and Web Development. Once I had course work in Java, C/C++, HTML5/CSS/JavaScript, VB.NET (Django/Python & Ruby/RoR too) on paper - that's when I started to get a chance. Nowadays, the developer position is so crowded and water-downed that the salary is falling for web guys here - A LOT.

The best IT specialization niche markets for growth are cloud, security and data science.

@mxmaniac I think you might have an easier time transitioning to cloud and security - like me. It's been far more intuitive with my background (which is similar to yours) than high-level object orientated programming paradigms.

N2IT

I would also like to add Data Integration. With companies merging and diverging over and over integration is here to stay. If you can get good at ETL you are looking at 150+ mid market. It's on fire as well.

@ OP Fuz1on is right on the money. An AS is development or CS with courses completed in development such as C# or C++ should give you the tools required to handle a junior dev role.

mxmaniac

fuz1on wrote: »

@mxmaniac I think you might have an easier time transitioning to cloud and security - like me. It's been far more intuitive with my background (which is similar to yours) than high-level object orientated programming paradigms.

You know, I've thought about going into security eventually. I've always been extremely security focused in all aspects of life, especially computers, and I do plan to get my Security+ cert soon (already studied, just keeping it in the back pocket to use to help renew my other certs).

But do I have any chance of getting into cloud or security, if I can't even even land a tier 1 helpdesk?

jamthat

From an ERP perspective, lots of SAP ABAP developers get hired straight out of college with MIS degrees, etc..not necessarily just CS degrees. From there, you can continue on to more advanced ABAP development or shuffle over to one of the many other support or implementation teams (basis, security, etc) depending on your environment.