I can't ping another host PC on the same switch and subnet.

Raymond MasonRaymond Mason Member Posts: 74 ■■□□□□□□□□
This has been driving me bonkers. In theory this should work since I put both PCs on the same subnet connected to the same switch. I am using a network simulator and I don't know what went wrong. I just started out with a fresh switch and two PCs connected by a straight through cable and they can't ping each other. They don't have a firewall enabled. The switch is a 1960 with no router. Even with a router I still have the same problems.

Maybe there is something I am missing here. I have tried many things but none of them have worked.

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  • koz24koz24 Member Posts: 766 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Which network simulator are you using? Can you post the config? Are you sure they're on the same subnet? Maybe one is /24 and the other /16?
  • Raymond MasonRaymond Mason Member Posts: 74 ■■□□□□□□□□
    I am using Packet Tracer 5.1. They both have a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0. I will give you the running-config of the switch. They are connected on fastethernet port 0/1 - 0/2.

    Current configuration : 1033 bytes
    !
    version 12.2
    no service timestamps log datetime msec
    no service timestamps debug datetime msec
    no service password-encryption
    !
    hostname Switch
    !
    !
    spanning-tree mode pvst
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/1
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/2
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/3
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/4
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/5
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/6
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/7
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/8
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/9
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/10
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/11
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/12
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/13
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/14
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/15
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/16
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/17
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/18
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/19
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/20
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/21
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/22
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/23
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/24
    !
    interface GigabitEthernet1/1
    !
    interface GigabitEthernet1/2
    !
    interface Vlan1
    no ip address
    shutdown
    !
    !
    line con 0
    !
    line vty 0 4
    login
    line vty 5 15
    login
    !
    !
    end
  • koz24koz24 Member Posts: 766 ■■■■□□□□□□
    What is the result of "arp -a" on the PCs?
  • Raymond MasonRaymond Mason Member Posts: 74 ■■□□□□□□□□
    The result of arp -a on both PC's is this:

    Internet Address: Blank
    Physical Address: Blank
    Type: Blank

    Do you think this might have something to do with the ARP?
  • koz24koz24 Member Posts: 766 ■■■■□□□□□□
    The result of arp -a on both PC's is this:

    Internet Address: Blank
    Physical Address: Blank
    Type: Blank

    Do you think this might have something to do with the ARP?

    Yes, this is clearly the issue. Host forwarding logic says to first check if the destination is on the same subnet, if it is: send directly. The host then uses ARP to find the MAC address of the directly connected device and sends it directly. In your case it looks like the PCs don't have IP addresses configured, so how can they check if they're on the same subnet? They cant. Are you sure you configured the IP addresses? In PacketTracer all you have to do is left-click the device, then go to IP config and set it up.
  • Raymond MasonRaymond Mason Member Posts: 74 ■■□□□□□□□□
    They are configured or so I thought. Let me show you what I did:

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  • koz24koz24 Member Posts: 766 ■■■■□□□□□□
    This is really strange. Can you try this on Packet Tracer 6.X?

    Also, PC2 I'm guessing is 192.168.2.2 255.255.255.0?
  • Raymond MasonRaymond Mason Member Posts: 74 ■■□□□□□□□□
    I did try this on packet tracer 6.x. That is why I am using 5.1 because I thought it was a bug with the simulator version. Nope, doesn't work at all.
  • koz24koz24 Member Posts: 766 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Can you double check PC2's config?
  • echo_time_catecho_time_cat Member Posts: 74 ■■□□□□□□□□
    What does ipconfig show for each PC? I decided to try and reproduce this, and I got a APIPA (169.254 etc) until I provided a default gateway. Can ping each host now that I assigned a DG.
  • DeathmageDeathmage Banned Posts: 2,496
    Try to make the vlan 1 not 'shutdown' with a 'no shutdown' and apply an ip address of say like '192.168.2.10 255.255.255.255.0' to interface vlan 1 and then assign like say 192.168.2.1 and 2 to the PC's with the 255.255.255.0 subnet mask and then see if you can ping across.

    Since your using vlan 1 no need to setup 'switchport mode access - switchport access vlan 1' on the ports since it's the native vlan by default, as-well as according to the switch config above, but to me the vlan 1 interface still needs an ip address and not shutdown is for sure is needed.

    Also sometimes Packet Tracer can work flaky.

    Try the above and see if that works. icon_biggrin.gif
  • mikeybinecmikeybinec Member Posts: 484 ■■■□□□□□□□
    Packet TRacer aint that flakey.. On the switch, give me a sh vtp st and a sh vlan br. I agree it looks clear on the running config
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  • DeathmageDeathmage Banned Posts: 2,496
    Keep it simple boys, it just needs a "no shutdown" on the vlan 1.

    by default vlan 1 is always shutdown and needs to be taken out of an administrative down with a 'no shutdown' on the interface. The same applies for every interface on a out-of-the-box switch and/or router. Technically, even though it's virtual a Packet Tracer router/switch is a 'OFTB' Experience just like the real device.





    Below, is an near exact clone:


    Switch:

    core-switch# core-switch#
    core-switch#show ru
    core-switch#show running-config
    Building configuration...


    Current configuration : 3292 bytes
    !
    version 12.2
    no service timestamps log datetime msec
    no service timestamps debug datetime msec
    service password-encryption
    !
    hostname core-switch
    !
    enable secret 5 $1$mERr$hx5rVt7rPNoS4wqbXKX7m0
    !
    !
    !
    !
    !
    spanning-tree mode pvst
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/1 switchport mode access
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/2
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/3
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/4
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/5
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/6
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/7
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/8
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/9
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/10
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/11
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/12
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/13
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/14
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/15
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/16
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/17
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/18
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/19
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/20
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/21
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/22
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/23
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/24
    switchport mode access
    switchport port-security
    switchport port-security maximum 2
    switchport port-security violation restrict

    !

    !
    interface GigabitEthernet0/1
    !
    interface GigabitEthernet0/2
    !
    interface Vlan1
    ip address 192.168.2.10 255.255.255.0
    !
    !
    !
    !
    line con 0
    password 7 0822455D0A16
    logging synchronous
    login
    history size 50
    exec-timeout 0 0
    !
    line vty 0 4
    exec-timeout 0 0
    password 7 0822455D0A16
    logging synchronous
    login
    line vty 5 15
    exec-timeout 0 0
    password 7 0822455D0A16
    logging synchronous
    login
    !
    !
    end




    core-switch#
    core-switch#
    core-switch#
    core-switch#ping 192.168.2.1


    Type escape sequence to abort.
    Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.2.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
    !!!!!
    Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 0/0/1 ms


    core-switch#ping 192.168.2.2


    Type escape sequence to abort.
    Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 192.168.2.2, timeout is 2 seconds:
    !!!!!
    Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 0/0/1 ms


    core-switch#




    Back to CCENT labbing I go... [disappears into the dark, dark, IT man-cave. Candle anyone?] icon_wink.gif
  • xnxxnx Member Posts: 464 ■■■□□□□□□□
    Good spot Deathimage, goes without saying but check the basics first :P
    Getting There ...

    Lab Equipment: Using Cisco CSRs and 4 Switches currently
  • Raymond MasonRaymond Mason Member Posts: 74 ■■□□□□□□□□
    I've checked the config on the other PC and I can confirm that it has an I.P and subnet. I did what deathmage suggested. I still can't ping the other PC. It sends four packets and the request times out. I end up loosing all four packets. Also, when I did an IP config for each PC I got the following:

    PC0
    IP Address......................: 192.168.1.1
    Subnet Mask.....................: 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway.................: 0.0.0.0

    PC1
    IP Address......................: 192.168.2.1
    Subnet Mask.....................: 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway.................: 0.0.0.0


    Vlan 1 is not shutdown and is given an I.P address and subnet address. Here is a fresh running-config:

    Switch#show running-config
    Building configuration...

    Current configuration : 1047 bytes
    !
    version 12.2
    no service timestamps log datetime msec
    no service timestamps debug datetime msec
    no service password-encryption
    !
    hostname Switch
    !
    !
    spanning-tree mode pvst
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/1
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/2
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/3
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/4
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/5
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/6
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/7
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/8
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/9
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/10
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/11
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/12
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/13
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/14
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/15
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/16
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/17
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/18
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/19
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/20
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/21
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/22
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/23
    !
    interface FastEthernet0/24
    !
    interface GigabitEthernet1/1
    !
    interface GigabitEthernet1/2
    !
    interface Vlan1
    ip address 192.168.2.10 255.255.255.0
    !
    !
    line con 0
    !
    line vty 0 4
    login
    line vty 5 15
    login
    !
    !
    end
  • davenulldavenull Member Posts: 173 ■■■□□□□□□□
    I've checked the config on the other PC and I can confirm that it has an I.P and subnet. I did what deathmage suggested. I still can't ping the other PC. It sends four packets and the request times out. I end up loosing all four packets. Also, when I did an IP config for each PC I got the following:

    PC0
    IP Address......................: 192.168.1.1
    Subnet Mask.....................: 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway.................: 0.0.0.0

    PC1
    IP Address......................: 192.168.2.1
    Subnet Mask.....................: 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway.................: 0.0.0.0

    end

    The PCs are in different networks.
  • Raymond MasonRaymond Mason Member Posts: 74 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Different networks? The IPs are different; but how are they in different networks? Maybe you can explain? Thanks for pointing this out if it is the case.
  • HAMPHAMP Member Posts: 163
    Different networks? The IPs are different; but how are they in different networks? Maybe you can explain? Thanks for pointing this out if it is the case.

    He is correct, they are in different networks. Looks like you may have to re-read the chapter on how to subnet.
  • Raymond MasonRaymond Mason Member Posts: 74 ■■□□□□□□□□
    I haven't gotten to the chapter on how to subnet. At least I know what the problem is and how I am going to tackle it now. I knew it was something simple that I was missing.
  • DeathmageDeathmage Banned Posts: 2,496
    I haven't gotten to the chapter on how to subnet. At least I know what the problem is and how I am going to tackle it now. I knew it was something simple that I was missing.

    different networks, yup that'll do it. Glad you figured it out. troubleshooting is part of the fun of networking sometimes or the stress, lol. icon_thumright.gif
  • HAMPHAMP Member Posts: 163
    I haven't gotten to the chapter on how to subnet. At least I know what the problem is and how I am going to tackle it now. I knew it was something simple that I was missing.

    255.255.255.0
    net.net.net.host

    255.255.0.0
    net.net.host.host

    255.0.0.0
    net.host.host.host


    See how the net is lined up with the 255? The 255 mean network. To be the same network, all of the numbers have to match/line up.

    Since you are using 255.255.255.0, all of the first 3 octet must match. You typed in the 3rd Octet different.

    Should have been something like:
    192.168.1.1
    255.255.255.0

    192.168.1.2
    255.255.255.0

    or if you wanted,

    192.168.2.1
    255.255.255.0

    192.168.2.2
    255.255.255.0
  • satishtechsatishtech Member Posts: 243
    different networks, just did the same lab on PT
    works with 192.168.1.0/24 on either interface.

    1.0 ,2.0 --- icon_rolleyes.gif different networks
  • Raymond MasonRaymond Mason Member Posts: 74 ■■□□□□□□□□
    I corrected the problem and instead of using 192.168.2.1 I used 192.168.1.2 ect. Now they can communicate just fine. I am so relieved to have finally figure this out. Thank you all for your help. I sure have learned a lot through this. :D
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