MCSE SharePoint certification

AlexeyRakAlexeyRak Registered Users Posts: 5 ■□□□□□□□□□
Good day,

I've decided to become a certified specialist in MCSE: SharePoint. But eventually I've found out MCSA should be received first. So my question is what MCSA to get: MCSA Windows Server 2012 or MCSA Office 365?

EDIT: at least two sources recommend to get MCSA Office 365.

Regards,
Alexey.

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  • knownheroknownhero Member Posts: 450
    Id not be so sure on this. Office 365 is expensive and most medium sized, heck even some large size companies might not see the need to go to the cloud. With the MCSA Server you will at least be able to be a server administrator before you get into SharePoint.

    I'm currently on this path as I do SharePoint as my job. I would recommend this though. DO NOT DO 70-412! Swap that with Administrating SQL server.
    70-410 [x] 70-411 [x] 70-462[x] 70-331[x] 70-332[x]
    MCSE - SharePoint 2013 :thumbup:

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  • AlexeyRakAlexeyRak Registered Users Posts: 5 ■□□□□□□□□□
    knownhero wrote: »
    Id not be so sure on this. Office 365 is expensive and most medium sized, heck even some large size companies might not see the need to go to the cloud. With the MCSA Server you will at least be able to be a server administrator before you get into SharePoint.

    I'm currently on this path as I do SharePoint as my job. I would recommend this though. DO NOT DO 70-412! Swap that with Administrating SQL server.
    Thanks for your quick reply and answer. Your point about cloud sounds quite reasonable. Could you give me more details about your last statement regarding 70-412?
    Thank you!
  • knownheroknownhero Member Posts: 450
    SharePoint runs off databases. Databases that will at some point may need to be moved and taken offline. You will need to understand how they work and how to administer them when they do not work, and the 70-412 doesn't teach you that.

    It's really up to you though to be honest. If you go into a work place that has SharePoint (depending on the size) you will be only responsible for the Application e.g. SharePoint and the Databases. You don't need to know how to install the server OS and all its network/group policies.

    All you're interested in is SharePoint.

    But like I said before its up to you. I for one cannot be bothered with this server stuff. But I can also see that MS doesnt want to pigeon hole people into certain roles
    70-410 [x] 70-411 [x] 70-462[x] 70-331[x] 70-332[x]
    MCSE - SharePoint 2013 :thumbup:

    Road map 2017: JavaScript and modern web development

  • AlexeyRakAlexeyRak Registered Users Posts: 5 ■□□□□□□□□□
    knownhero wrote: »
    SharePoint runs off databases. Databases that will at some point may need to be moved and taken offline. You will need to understand how they work and how to administer them when they do not work, and the 70-412 doesn't teach you that.

    It's really up to you though to be honest. If you go into a work place that has SharePoint (depending on the size) you will be only responsible for the Application e.g. SharePoint and the Databases. You don't need to know how to install the server OS and all its network/group policies.

    All you're interested in is SharePoint.

    But like I said before its up to you. I for one cannot be bothered with this server stuff. But I can also see that MS doesnt want to pigeon hole people into certain roles
    Thanks! Your answer was very helpful, I think I'll go with Server option.
  • someperson49someperson49 MCSE:CP&I, MCSA:CP, O365, W7, VCP5, CCENT, ITIL-F, A+, N+, Server+, Cloud+, Storage+ Member Posts: 82 ■■■□□□□□□□
    You could do 70-410, 70-411, 70-346, 70-347 and end up with both MCSA Server 2012 and MCSA O365. That's what I plan on doing.
  • AlexeyRakAlexeyRak Registered Users Posts: 5 ■□□□□□□□□□
    You could do 70-410, 70-411, 70-346, 70-347 and end up with both MCSA Server 2012 and MCSA O365. That's what I plan on doing.
    Thanks for your input. My current plan is to get MCSA in order to get MCSE. I may consider getting MCSA 365 later on.
  • pjd007pjd007 Member Posts: 277 ■■■□□□□□□□
    AlexeyRak wrote: »
    Thanks for your input. My current plan is to get MCSA in order to get MCSE. I may consider getting MCSA 365 later on.
    The thing is once you have the MCSE you can do 341 & 342 and skip the MCSA O365 (they accept MCSA server in place of it) to get the messaging MCSE, that's what I'm doing now but I do wonder if it would be worth doing the O365 exams as well.
  • knownheroknownhero Member Posts: 450
    Office 365 to me isn't worth it UNLESS you currently work somewhere that uses it. Its too expensive at the moment to have and physical servers in an office aren't going anywhere any time soon.

    You can fall back on an MCSA getting a server admin role quicker and easier than you would with the O365.

    Again all personal opinions here.

    Check out my path to MSCE in the signature. Those are the exams I am doing.
    70-410 [x] 70-411 [x] 70-462[x] 70-331[x] 70-332[x]
    MCSE - SharePoint 2013 :thumbup:

    Road map 2017: JavaScript and modern web development

  • pjd007pjd007 Member Posts: 277 ■■■□□□□□□□
    knownhero wrote: »
    Office 365 to me isn't worth it UNLESS you currently work somewhere that uses it. Its too expensive at the moment to have and physical servers in an office aren't going anywhere any time soon.

    You can fall back on an MCSA getting a server admin role quicker and easier than you would with the O365.

    Again all personal opinions here.

    Check out my path to MSCE in the signature. Those are the exams I am doing.
    That's what I thought but I have seen some jobs looking for O365 skills though probably not enough to warrant doing the exams.
  • knownheroknownhero Member Posts: 450
    But then again. If you want it for the sake of wanting it... I'd do it last.
    70-410 [x] 70-411 [x] 70-462[x] 70-331[x] 70-332[x]
    MCSE - SharePoint 2013 :thumbup:

    Road map 2017: JavaScript and modern web development

  • AlexeyRakAlexeyRak Registered Users Posts: 5 ■□□□□□□□□□
    pjd007 wrote: »
    The thing is once you have the MCSE you can do 341 & 342 and skip the MCSA O365 (they accept MCSA server in place of it) to get the messaging MCSE, that's what I'm doing now but I do wonder if it would be worth doing the O365 exams as well.
    Yeah, clever move - two birds with one stone.
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