higher level positions

How do you feel about a higher level position with more responsibilities and duties. Is it something you see as a challenge? I have seen a guy move up and after a while step down because they were overwhelmed (and didn't want to get fired). To be complacent and stay where you are or have more of a challenge with additional responsibilities?

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scaredoftests

Have more challenges. Never be afraid of failure, you don't learn anything!

aderon

One of my coworkers did something similar. They took a 60k paycut because they didn't want to deal with the stress. On one hand, I don't think any amount of stress would make me take a 60k paycut, but on the other hand I've been in positions where stress levels are very very high and it's no fun at all. I think it's about having a balance.

bpenn

aderon wrote: »

One of my coworkers did something similar. They took a 60k paycut because they didn't want to deal with the stress. On one hand, I don't think any amount of stress would make me take a 60k paycut, but on the other hand I've been in positions where stress levels are very very high and it's no fun at all. I think it's about having a balance.

Dear lord, 60k? I dont even make 60k...

scaredoftests

there is a difference (in my mind) between complacent and just being scared to do something 'different'.

W Stewart

It's stressful as hell but I would never give it up for a less challenging job.

chmod

Big part of my professional career has been in positions where i wasn't entirely ready/prepared to begin with but nonetheless i took the risk and worked hard to cope with the expectations.

I simply love that feeling.

kohr-ah

Give me every challenge you can throw at me. I will always take them.

I forget whose signature here said this but it is spot on "I never fail, I only learn"

gespenstern

Never looked back in my life.

Win, or die trying.

E Double U

Every position I've taken was a step up from the previous and each presented a number of challenges. I look forward to more in the future.

B80

A good thread. I took a job as IT Manager a few years back and moved on after a year. For me it wasn't worth the knock-on effect it had to my life outside of work.

I was highly thought of(at least what they told me), and they were shocked when I handed in my notice. My wife was also in highly stressful job at the time and our marriage almost went down the drain because of our roles. I'm now earning more money in desktop support and do my 35 hours, work hard and thats it! No extra hours expected or required, no dealing with calls in the evening or weekend.

My only concern (as mentioned in another thread) is keeping my skills reasonably relevant in case my role is ever outsourced. I've already started thinking of progression within the company, but the culture seems to vary in each department and I don't want to be working on call - ever- for any money - even double what I'm earning now, honestly. I understand this may prevent career progression, but TBH I don't feel a burning desire to climb the ladder if it means living in a constant state of stress - maybe I don't deal with it as well as I could.

I'm lucky in that my wife is doing really well career wise (Programme Manager), so I guess I don't have the pressure to feel I have to bring in more money for the family (when we have kids). I can imagine having more drive to push myself into more challenging roles (to earn more money, not for the love of it) if my wife wasn't the main bread winner.

Fair play to you guys who do push on though. Wish I had the enthusiasm to keep studying and self belief!

Ismaeljrp

aderon wrote: »

One of my coworkers did something similar. They took a 60k paycut because they didn't want to deal with the stress. On one hand, I don't think any amount of stress would make me take a 60k paycut, but on the other hand I've been in positions where stress levels are very very high and it's no fun at all. I think it's about having a balance.

Who knows how bad it was. Someone in that position just might be mad they can't party as much, while someone else in that position steps down because it's ruining their marriage and relationship with their kids.

There are plenty legitimate reasons to make that type of decision, I'd never judge anyone for doing it.

I think sometimes people lose touch with reality, and hear this type of thing happen and are completely mind boggled.

White Wizard

kohr-ah wrote: »

Give me every challenge you can throw at me. I will always take them.

I forget whose signature here said this but it is spot on "I never fail, I only learn"

Exactly how I feel.

gespenstern

kohr-ah wrote: »

Give me every challenge you can throw at me. I will always take them.

That's Kohr-Ah mentality, lol.

Don't be born as Umgah, be born as Kohr-Ah!

TheProf

Good thread indeed!

I always strive to move up the ladder. What makes us all happy, is progress. The end result (promotion, increase in responsibilities, increase in salary, etc) is nice, but it does not make people happy. Surely, you'll get a temporary satisfaction that all your hard work payed off, but that's only temporary until you look for the next best thing.

I don't know, call it human psychology, but I think for most people, people moving up (progress) is what makes us happy. I would take any job that is challenging and rewarding over an easy job with barely any responsibility, and if that means that I have to take after hour calls or deal with stress, then that's what it takes.

The saying goes:

If it were easy, everyone would be doing it!

The more you practice with your craft, the better you get. Things don't get easier, you just get better at dealing with them!

Dakinggamer87

TheProf wrote: »

Good thread indeed!

I always strive to move up the ladder. What makes us all happy, is progress. The end result (promotion, increase in responsibilities, increase in salary, etc) is nice, but it does not make people happy. Surely, you'll get a temporary satisfaction that all your hard work payed off, but that's only temporary until you look for the next best thing.

I don't know, call it human psychology, but I think for most people, people moving up (progress) is what makes us happy. I would take any job that is challenging and rewarding over an easy job with barely any responsibility, and if that means that I have to take after hour calls or deal with stress, then that's what it takes.

The saying goes:

The more you practice with your craft, the better you get. Things don't get easier, you just get better at dealing with them!

Totally agree!!

UnixGuy

It really depends on how you deal with 'stress'. I honestly rarely if ever see things as stress anymore. Meanwhile, one of my colleagues is probably gonna get a heart attack dealing with customers over phone. I laugh with/at customers, make friends, and learn something new everyday - guess who's winning?

TheProf

UnixGuy wrote: »

It really depends on how you deal with 'stress'. I honestly rarely if ever see things as stress anymore. Meanwhile, one of my colleagues is probably gonna get a heart attack dealing with customers over phone. I laugh with/at customers, make friends, and learn something new everyday - guess who's winning?

That's a good attitude!