Remote Training?
I'm signing up for the GSEC training course here in Denver in June and I saw that they had a remote option. Has anyone done this? If not, do you think it'd create a large challenge to do the class remotely? I wasn't sure how hands-on they were and if I could get a similar learning experience remoting in. The benefit I'm looking at is simply the traffic. The commute in the morning would be pretty bad.
Comments
Website gave me error for signature, check out what I've done here: https://pwningroot.com/
2020: GCIP | GCIA
2021: GRID | GDSA | Pentest+
2022: GMON | GDAT
2023: GREM | GSE | GCFA
WGU BS IT-NA | SANS Grad Cert: PT&EH | SANS Grad Cert: ICS Security | SANS Grad Cert: Cyber Defense Ops | SANS Grad Cert: Incident Response
Website gave me error for signature, check out what I've done here: https://pwningroot.com/
Compared the SEC504/GCIH: https://www.sans.org/course/hacker-techniques-exploits-incident-handling
Which looks more interesting and challenging to you?
2020: GCIP | GCIA
2021: GRID | GDSA | Pentest+
2022: GMON | GDAT
2023: GREM | GSE | GCFA
WGU BS IT-NA | SANS Grad Cert: PT&EH | SANS Grad Cert: ICS Security | SANS Grad Cert: Cyber Defense Ops | SANS Grad Cert: Incident Response
Website gave me error for signature, check out what I've done here: https://pwningroot.com/
Good Luck.
Website gave me error for signature, check out what I've done here: https://pwningroot.com/
Not possible, SANS doesn't sell the books, they are only included when you take the course. Your not allowed to transfer materials, so they are doing something shady here.
Website gave me error for signature, check out what I've done here: https://pwningroot.com/
It's better to get the books from buying the class. Quite a few people have questions about the content and since this is an open book exam you need to have an index that works with the current exam.
As others have pointed out, the only way to get SANS/GIAC materials is to have paid for and taken the class, whether it be the live class or on-demand. Buying materials is a no-no for both the seller and buyer, as SANS will revoke your certification or ban you from certifying if you are found to have violated the agreement required when taking the classes or exams.
If you were to use bootleg materials to take the certification test you would be in violation of the agreement. Consider that the GIAC folks have access to the lists of people who sign up for or attend SANS training. If you're not challenging the test it would be pretty obvious that you got the materials from an unauthorized source.
A very risky thing to do when it affects your livelihood, not to mention highly unprofessional and unethical.
SANS course - GCIH, GCED, etc. 6k
CISSP Bootcamp. 4k
CISSP self-study ~$200 in material.
I would disagree with your interpretation, while the seller is in violation of agreement, I fail to see how the buyer is in violation of an agreement they have not seen or possess before the sale of said materials. While I agree that the "new" owner of the books must abide by the agreement and held accountable for future violations of the agreement, they are not in breach of the agreement until they possess the materials in question. No where in the agreement does it state if you obtained these materials for a source other than the SANS Institute you are in violation of said agreement. While I'm not a lawyer, I highly doubt such a clause would be enforceable.
Others have challenged the exam without getting on the SANS and NSA watch list, all of the materials contained in the SANS books can be obtained from other sources, it could be other books, security white papers, security professional blogs, industry articles, etc. Now granted you would have to read and a study a lot more material to pass the exam, not knowing whats testable. On the other hand, the books have exactly what will be contained in the exams.
If they are only reimbursing you if you pass the exam, then they should provide you with the best possible chance to succeed. Obtaining a set of books that may be outdated, from a questionable source and expect you to front the money for the exam doesn't sit well for me. At the very least I would want to see what books they expect me to use. What if you pay for the exam and they give you a set of 4 books that are three years old and expect you to pass using them? At the very least I would ask SANS for guidance, so not to get into an ethical dilemma with them. While it may technically legal, do you really want to get lawyers involved if something goes wrong? It could be very expensive to prove your right.