Old topic, new crowd - How many of you have your certs in your work email sig?
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OctalDump Member Posts: 1,722CCSP® and Certified Chiropractic Sports Physician® are apparently trademarked by American Chiropractic Association (ACA). I sense a potential lawsuit coming. Oh well.
It should be ok since they are two very different industries and there is unlikely to be much confusion.2017 Goals - Something Cisco, Something Linux, Agile PM -
keenon Member Posts: 1,922 ■■■■□□□□□□Just the IEBecome the stainless steel sharp knife in a drawer full of rusty spoons
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ande0255 Banned Posts: 1,178I should have originally mentioned, after not tacking certs to my name / title cause it looks stupid (especially internally), I actually use Cisco mini symbols that you log into their certification portal to retrieve, as the 4 Cisco certs I have and even though the CMNA is a joke the Meraki Green in their cert symbol just looks cool to finish the cert logos off
Again I only break out the signature for certain situations where I need to speak authoritatively on a security statement of findings to customers, whether to hold for audits or during an audit.
Security Consultants are like Sith Lords to me when selling their security services to my customers, and when I have to stand up and back my companies solution, the certifications (looking in a cool manner) helps level the playing field to the customer being influenced by this security spook.
I've had several riled up CEO's call me with an auditor standing in the shadows, occasionally calling out random questions on speaker phone trying to derail my ability to answer, either I am a Mesiah of finding scum bag auditors or they all are soulless gingers.
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And yes if / when I ever get a CCIE #, I would probably have it branded to my skin to remember the agony of studying for it! -
ande0255 Banned Posts: 1,178I've had a number of Linux admin/engineer related interviews lately where the interviewer had no idea what the RHCE was.
That's got either be a swift kick in the sack in mid interview, or a GREAT talking point to sail through the rest of the interview!
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NOC-Ninja Member Posts: 1,403Regards,
NOC-Ninja, MSISA
(CCIE logo here)
It gets a LOT of attention.
Locally, I don't reply with any signature to my close co-workers or manager. -
dontstop Member Posts: 579 ■■■■□□□□□□Today wouldn't it be easier to just link to your linkedin on your signature? That would seem more professional.
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ande0255 Banned Posts: 1,178I think if you sign something NOC-Ninja, there is no further input needed to imply your a total IT bad ass!
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OctalDump Member Posts: 1,722Today wouldn't it be easier to just link to your linkedin on your signature? That would seem more professional.
Actually, this is a good compromise for many situations. It's not in your face, but lets people see more about if you like, and possibly connect and increase your linkedin network. And maybe you get to see their profile in return.
But for marketing/branding with external clients etc, you'd still want to put the headline details right there in the sig.2017 Goals - Something Cisco, Something Linux, Agile PM -
RogueAdmin Member Posts: 12 ■□□□□□□□□□Listing one or two relevant high level certs can make sense, say, CCIE for a networking gig or CISSP for a security position. IT Director listing an A+ would be weird.
Longer list makes sense for LinkedIn or the back of a business card. Fortifying the cert list with more substance gives them credit. That is, the "I have the certs, but I have actually done something with them." -
dialectical Member Posts: 55 ■■□□□□□□□□What about title in your email sig? Particularly if you are a senior tech and you have the word senior in there. As a generic example, I know a Sr. IT Specialist who just put "IT Specialist" in his signature, and I was always impressed by the humility. But now that I am a senior tech myself, his lesson in humility just seems annoying
Undecided on the signature.
Info: Going to a new place and no one will know me, and it is somewhere that has a tight junior, mid, senior paygrade ranking system. Not even sure who the audience is for most emails, I imagine mostly for internal use.
Would something like this seem vain to you if that is literally what it says on your paycheck?: Sr. System Engineer
Kind of talking myself into System Engineer (without the senior). But then that seems like a vain calculation in itself if coworkers know your rank but are impressed with your humility (as I was). Calculated humility does not seem genuine, but philosophical dilemmas are often messy. Is an honest question though. -
EnderWiggin Member Posts: 551 ■■■■□□□□□□I don't understand putting certifications in a signature. It means you passed one test. I could understand a CCIE since that is multiple tests, but a CISSP? It's a good accomplishment, but it's the equivalent of taking a single college course.
I won't put anything in my signature, unless I get a doctorate one day, then I'll add the "Dr." at the beginning of my name (never gonna happen though ) -
EnderWiggin Member Posts: 551 ■■■■□□□□□□It should be ok since they are two very different industries and there is unlikely to be much confusion.
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mbarrett Member Posts: 397 ■■■□□□□□□□Most people I'm emailing currently don't care about what certs I have, only that sh!t gets done. I think that certs in the email signature are more relevant to someone with more visibility to the customer base - you can always have more than one email sig, and change it up as needed. Even when I was putting certs in my sig as the default, I was keeping another version without certs when I was communicating internally.
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hurricane1091 Member Posts: 919 ■■■■□□□□□□I changed my mind on this but I'm still unsure. The title I was given is not the one I applied for. DevOps engineer is my title, and it doesn't really reflect that I do the networking, so I've put CCNP RS in it to reflect that is what I actually do so people seem to understand better.
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SaSkiller Member Posts: 337 ■■■□□□□□□□Lol I no longer do it. Used to years ago but not anymore.OSWP, GPEN, GWAPT, GCIH, CPT, CCENT, CompTIA Trio.
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dialectical Member Posts: 55 ■■□□□□□□□□hurricane1091 wrote: »DevOps engineer is my title
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PJ_Sneakers Member Posts: 884 ■■■■■■□□□□You losers use signature lines? Pffft!
It already says who I am in the header. -
TechGromit Member Posts: 2,156 ■■■■■■■■■□Current I don't have any certifications I think are all that impressive, so I don't list them. If I ever obtain my CISSP or CCNP, I would list those. I do know a co-worker that proudly list GSEC on there email, and another that holds 5 GIAC certs and a CISSP to boot and doesn't list any of them.Still searching for the corner in a round room.
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shimasensei Member Posts: 241 ■■■□□□□□□□This has got me thinking...I currently don't list any of my certs. I used to have an email sig with my official "AVP - ITS" title, but that has since changed to the subtle "v/r Name" or "thanks Name".Current: BSc IT + CISSP, CCNP:RS, CCNA:Sec, CCNA:RS, CCENT, Sec+, P+, A+, L+/LPIC-1, CSSS, VCA6-DCV, ITILv3:F, MCSA:Win10
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nachodba Member Posts: 201 ■■■□□□□□□□My old manager made us **** all certifications from our signatures, which I was a fan of because we had several senior level systems administrators who still had their A+, N+ and MCP certifications listed.2020 Goals
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DatabaseHead Member Posts: 2,754 ■■■■■■■■■■my old manager made us **** all certifications from our signatures, which i was a fan of because we had several senior level systems administrators who still had their a+, n+ and mcp certifications listed.
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dontstop Member Posts: 579 ■■■■□□□□□□Ditch them...
Regards,
Dontstop Jr. Esq., IV, P.C., USNR, LL.D., M.D., D.D., CLU, Ph.D., Sr. -
Legacy User Unregistered / Not Logged In Posts: 0 ■□□□□□□□□□If you do decide to add it just don't be that person that adds certifications for something completely unrelated to their role or add you own made up title because I've seen those people become the joke of the day by managers behind their backs.
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networker050184 Mod Posts: 11,962 ModDon't be that guy. Nobody likes that guy.An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made.
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hurricane1091 Member Posts: 919 ■■■■□□□□□□dialectical wrote: »If a "Sr." DevOps Engineer would you have that part in your signature?
Why would you not? I removed it anyway because no one here even knows what it is. -
renacido Member Posts: 387 ■■■■□□□□□□Emails to newer clients or prospects, where a relevant cert may add credibility - I'll add a cert to my sig block.
For internal emails, no. My credibility comes from good work, not passing some exams. -
urstuffplz1 Member Posts: 76 ■■■□□□□□□□If you do decide to add it just don't be that person that adds certifications for something completely unrelated to their role or add you own made up title because I've seen those people become the joke of the day by managers behind their backs.
Sounds like a friend of mine this! He passed his CEH, then changed his own job title from Senior Helpdesk Engineer to Senior Security Specialist... can't help but think what the rest of his team/management think of this really.. especially considering he's still on the helpdesk2018 Goals: CCNP Route 300-101[X], CCNP Switch 300-115[X], CCNP T'Shoot 300-135[X], VCP-DCV 6[], 70-412[], 70-413[], 70-414[] -
JDMurray Admin Posts: 13,091 AdminI add or remove certs from my email sig depending on the context. The only cert I deliberately renew is CISSP, but I like to shown an even representation from GIAC, CompTIA, Cisco, etc. too.
I've worked in places that did not allow certs in sigs because it caused people to want their employer to pay for cert training. There is also the problem of people being envious of others with an arm-load of certs, and that a "flagrant display of certification" just creates an elitist pecking order among co-workers. Showing too many certs can also cost you opportunities by being perceived as a flashy, high-paid, smarty pants (like Iris ). -
iBrokeIT Member Posts: 1,318 ■■■■■■■■■□2019: GPEN | GCFE | GXPN | GICSP | CySA+
2020: GCIP | GCIA
2021: GRID | GDSA | Pentest+
2022: GMON | GDAT
2023: GREM | GSE | GCFA
WGU BS IT-NA | SANS Grad Cert: PT&EH | SANS Grad Cert: ICS Security | SANS Grad Cert: Cyber Defense Ops | SANS Grad Cert: Incident Response -
ande0255 Banned Posts: 1,178Another Twin Cities person, you better run outside today and enjoy the sun while its out once this summer!