What do you do when your raise is declined?

sillymcnasty

Hey,


What have you guys done when your raise was declined? Did you just suck it up and stay? Fight and get it? Leave? Stories please!

anhtran35

I bit my tongue and started job searching. Found the job and PAY that I wanted within 3 months. Gave my 2 weeks notice and that was that.

sillymcnasty

anhtran35 wrote: »

I bit my tongue and started job searching. Found the job and PAY that I wanted within 3 months. Gave my 2 weeks notice and that was that.

Did they have any reaction to you leaving?

DoubleNNs

sillymcnasty wrote: »

Did they have any reaction to you leaving?

Why does their reaction matter? You're leaving for you and to progress in your career, not for revenge, right?

oxymoron5k

I did what anhtran35 did and within 2 months got a 15k raise with a waaay better job.

(Sorry quote feature was glitching for me)

sillymcnasty

DoubleNNs wrote: »

Why does their reaction matter? You're leaving for you and to progress in your career, not for revenge, right?

I mean in terms of counter offer. Surprise that you're leaving. Anger. Sadness.

DoubleNNs

If you're set on leaving, their reaction is really a non-issue.

I've gotten all type of reactions when leaving a company for something better. It's always different.

PocketLumberjack

Did they explain why they declined the raise? Is this like a we need to batten down the hatches to make it through a tough time or was it just a flat out no. To me the reason the request was denied would answer that question.

cisco4life

I don't know....never had to ask for a raise. I guess I've been lucky to always have gotten decent raises and promotions. If I was turned down, I would want to know if it was due to performance perception or strictly budget issues within the company. If a company truly can't afford it and you like the job, you might want to wait it out and ask again in the near future. If the job isn't that enjoyable, I would start looking for something better now.

NetworkNewb

DoubleNNs wrote: »

You're leaving for you and to progress in your career, not for revenge, right?

rightttttttt

sillymcnasty

This isn't a thread about me being declined. I haven't asked for a raise. But in the event I do, and I am declined, I just wanted to see what other people have done. Half for knowledge, half for entertainment. Would be nice to hear a story where someone was told no, and then put in notice, then miracously a raise was offered.

E Double U

DoubleNNs wrote: »

You're leaving for you and to progress in your career, not for revenge, right?

A little bit from column A, a little bit from column B.

kalimuscle

just apply.

if you get a role

and if they give a counter offer

tell them to go shove it up their asses

Danielh22185

I can relate to this. I recently moved to a new group in my at the last quarter of 2016 at last company that should have come with a 10-15k pay bump (to bring me to the minimum pay requirements of the position) . I gave them WAY more than enough time (8 months) and hounded my mgmt countless times about giving me what I deserved. I never received it or even ever received word when I could expect something at the very least. So I left and received a $22k pay bump + opportunity for 10% annual bonus. Good riddance old job!

mjnk77

sillymcnasty wrote: »

This isn't a thread about me being declined. I haven't asked for a raise. But in the event I do, and I am declined, I just wanted to see what other people have done. Half for knowledge, half for entertainment. Would be nice to hear a story where someone was told no, and then put in notice, then miracously a raise was offered.

If someone put's in for a raise, is turned down, puts in notice, then miraculously got a raise, I'd still leave. If the company truly appreciated your work and wanted to keep you, then they wouldn't be waiting until you were walking out the door. There will always be that lingering notion that they still don't appreciate you on your end, and on theirs it would be this person may leave at any moment. So again, if you put in and are turned down, but receive an offer from another company, then leave.

This is not the same as if you didn't put in for a raise/position, but you receive an offer from another company, then your current company decides to match such offer. In that case, you weigh one versus the other.

Danielh22185

mjnk77 wrote: »

If someone put's in for a raise, is turned down, puts in notice, then miraculously got a raise, I'd still leave. If the company truly appreciated your work and wanted to keep you, then they wouldn't be waiting until you were walking out the door. There will always be that lingering notion that they still don't appreciate you on your end, and on theirs it would be this person may leave at any moment. So again, if you put in and are turned down, but receive an offer from another company, then leave.

This is not the same as if you didn't put in for a raise/position, but you receive an offer from another company, then your current company decides to match such offer. In that case, you weigh one versus the other.

I agree. I even was thinking the same thing when I was about to leave my last job, if they would offer a counter what I would do. However I knew I wouldn't accept it because I was not leaving entirely because of money that I deserved. It played as a big factor however there were still many other reasons I was leaving. Some of those were issues I knew were never going to be fixed / my situation was not going to change and I was going to continue to be miserable. Turns out they didn't counter and cared about me as much as I thought they did.

anhtran35

sillymcnasty wrote: »

Did they have any reaction to you leaving?

Those that I had a good working relationship were SAD. Then there were those that were indifferent.

UncleB

sillymcnasty wrote: »

Would be nice to hear a story where someone was told no, and then put in notice, then miracously a raise was offered.

I always make a clear business case why I am worth the target figure and say my research clearly supports my value to the company and here is where I can add yet more value in future. Quantify cost savings you have made, where you have improved things and trained people etc.

I finish with something along the lines of "my research has highlighted 18 positions at my level in this city at or above my requested salary in the last 3 months and I would much prefer to remain here continuing to make significant contributions to both the department and company". Pull in job ads to back up the numbers of course otherwise you are just lying to them and that won't end well.

This is a thinly veiled threat that you know your worth, you have demonstrated it, showed it isn't going to stop if you stay but you are willing to move on if an agreement cannot be met.

If they come back and say no then say you are dissapointed that they did not value you in the same way the competitors would and leave it at that - they will get freaked that you may leave and take your knowledge to a competitor (I know there may be an anti-compete clause but these are hard to enforce) and possibly intellectual property. If this doesn't kick them into action then it is really time to move on.

That's just me - I don't suffer fools gladly when it comes to my income.