oscp exam restriction

vynxvynx Member Posts: 153 ■■□□□□□□□□
in Offensive Security: OSCP & OSCE
i just read about oscp exam restriction https://support.offensive-security.com/#!oscp-exam-guide.md#Exam_Restrictions:_Metasploit

[FONT=&quot]If you decide to use Metasploit or Meterpreter on a specific target and the attack fails, then you [/FONT]may not[FONT=&quot] attempt to use it on a second target. In other words, the use of Metasploit and Meterpreter becomes locked in as soon as you decide to use either one of them.

are we really need metasploit or dont need that for exam ?[/FONT]
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  • saragurusaraguru Member Posts: 46 ■■□□□□□□□□
    vynx wrote: »
    i just read about oscp exam restriction https://support.offensive-security.com/#!oscp-exam-guide.md#Exam_Restrictions:_Metasploit

    [FONT=&amp]If you decide to use Metasploit or Meterpreter on a specific target and the attack fails, then you [/FONT]may not[FONT=&amp] attempt to use it on a second target. In other words, the use of Metasploit and Meterpreter becomes locked in as soon as you decide to use either one of them.

    are we really need metasploit or dont need that for exam ?[/FONT]
    The answer really depends upon your skill set and mind set. If you are really confident that you can do everything manually then you wouldn't be needing it for the exam at all. I know few of my friends passed the exam without even using their Metasploit lifeline. However, using Metasploit might same you time in some cases, which is what is the most important resource for the exam. If you can manage your time then you can pass the exam without much difficulty.

    So, in the end whether you need Metasploit or not depends upon YOU!!!
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  • BlucodexBlucodex Member Posts: 430 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Once you decide your target, you can use MS as your heart desires on that target correct? Multiple exploits, etc?
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  • vynxvynx Member Posts: 153 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Blucodex wrote: »
    Once you decide your target, you can use MS as your heart desires on that target correct? Multiple exploits, etc?

    thats the thing which is i'm bit worry and confuse, are they need we like sniper ? 1 bullet 1 headshoot ?
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  • BuhRockBuhRock Member Posts: 71 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Basically, but the use of metasploit may not guarantee a root. It might get you local admin only, who knows.
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  • unkn0wnsh3llunkn0wnsh3ll Member Posts: 68 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Just to clarify, I do have this doubt not exactly, but the usage of Meterpreter payload / Metasploit is restricted to One machine.
    1. Does it mean either of the ones can be used in target?
    2. When I use Multi/handler & setting up the reverse shell, we setup payload/windows/meterpreter/reverse_tcp, then set up Parameters, then executing thru the web or some way we get a reverse shell. At this point, it creates and provides a Meterpreter session. Is this only allowed to use in one machine?

    I'm lost a bit when Offsec says Metasploit / Meterpreter can be used on only one machine? I take it as either of the ones can be used in one machine.

    Please clarify me

    Cheers
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  • BuhRockBuhRock Member Posts: 71 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Using a handler is allowed on any machine. The exam instructions will be very clear, but there are some machines they don't allow you to use metasploit exploits.
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  • unkn0wnsh3llunkn0wnsh3ll Member Posts: 68 ■■□□□□□□□□
    ok, I get it. Since I have taken the exam earlier it was different rules and it does clearly state about usage and restrictions. But with new changes, it is confusing...
    Using handler is allowed like reverse shell etc, but when we use "use payload/ etc.... etc" , then it is counted as Metasploit full usage / or "use payload/ etc....etc in Meterpreter session is counted as similarly. Either the one can be used... Hope my understanding is ok?

    Cheers
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  • vynxvynx Member Posts: 153 ■■□□□□□□□□
    BuhRock wrote: »
    Using a handler is allowed on any machine. The exam instructions will be very clear, but there are some machines they don't allow you to use metasploit exploits.
    can someone explain to me what is handler in easy way ?

    anyway if i download exploit from exploit db then compile it and run to hack the machine, it's allowed or not ?
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  • JoJoCal19JoJoCal19 Mod Posts: 2,834 Mod
    vynx wrote: »
    can someone explain to me what is handler in easy way ?

    anyway if i download exploit from exploit db then compile it and run to hack the machine, it's allowed or not ?

    Vynx, based on this post (and your other posts here), OSCP may not be a good idea to pursue. The OSCP requires a TON of research outside of the coursework, and really good research skills too. Posts like these don't indicate research is a strong point for you. During the PWK coursework people won't be there to answer basic questions. What is your background and certs if you don't mind me asking? Id hate to see you waste $800-1000 on the PWK course.
    Have: CISSP, CISM, CISA, CRISC, eJPT, GCIA, GSEC, CCSP, CCSK, AWS CSAA, AWS CCP, OCI Foundations Associate, ITIL-F, MS Cyber Security - USF, BSBA - UF, MSISA - WGU
    Currently Working On: Python, OSCP Prep
    Next Up:​ OSCP
    Studying:​ Code Academy (Python), Bash Scripting, Virtual Hacking Lab Coursework
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  • McxRisleyMcxRisley Member Posts: 494 ■■■■■□□□□□
    Nobody has said it yet, so I guess that means I have to be the kinda ******* here but I'm only saying it to help those who have numerous questions along these lines. When you sign up for the course and before you take your exam. Offsec will provide all of the answers to all of your questions. If you have any concerns after reviewing the documentation, they have admins available that will answer any question regarding rules and restrictions that you may have. Some may also tell you the exact same thing I am going to say here, please read the documentation they send. I'll say it again, READ THE DOCUMENTATION.
    I'm not allowed to say what my previous occupation was, but let's just say it rhymes with architect.
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  • vynxvynx Member Posts: 153 ■■□□□□□□□□
    JoJoCal19 wrote: »
    Vynx, based on this post (and your other posts here), OSCP may not be a good idea to pursue. The OSCP requires a TON of research outside of the coursework, and really good research skills too. Posts like these don't indicate research is a strong point for you. During the PWK coursework people won't be there to answer basic questions. What is your background and certs if you don't mind me asking? Id hate to see you waste $800-1000 on the PWK course.
    i just newbie in pen test and want to learn more ...
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  • JoJoCal19JoJoCal19 Mod Posts: 2,834 Mod
    vynx wrote: »
    i just newbie in pen test and want to learn more ...

    I may be in the minority opinion, and others feel free to chime in, but I don't think the OSCP is the right choice. I would look at eLearnSecurity's PTSv3 course and eJPT certification. Then after that evaluate if you're ready for OSCP.
    Have: CISSP, CISM, CISA, CRISC, eJPT, GCIA, GSEC, CCSP, CCSK, AWS CSAA, AWS CCP, OCI Foundations Associate, ITIL-F, MS Cyber Security - USF, BSBA - UF, MSISA - WGU
    Currently Working On: Python, OSCP Prep
    Next Up:​ OSCP
    Studying:​ Code Academy (Python), Bash Scripting, Virtual Hacking Lab Coursework
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  • vynxvynx Member Posts: 153 ■■□□□□□□□□
    JoJoCal19 wrote: »
    I may be in the minority opinion, and others feel free to chime in, but I don't think the OSCP is the right choice. I would look at eLearnSecurity's PTSv3 course and eJPT certification. Then after that evaluate if you're ready for OSCP.

    i have take it and pass it ... now i'm in the middle to take eCPPT or OSCP ...
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  • BuhRockBuhRock Member Posts: 71 ■■□□□□□□□□
    I agree with JoJo. @Vynx, for these questions it's just better to read documentation provided by offsec and then ask offsec support. We have no authority over anything with offsec. If you're having technical questions, that's where you're going to need to just start trying yourself. Trial and error is a method you can try if you're a "noob". The OSCP is not a certification that you get your hand held through. To be honest I don't want the integrity of the cert hurt either, so you'll just need to .... try harder my friend.
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  • Dr. FluxxDr. Fluxx Member Posts: 98 ■■□□□□□□□□
    vynx

    What certs do you have?
    What is your background?
    What have you studied so far in preparation for the OSCP?
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  • vynxvynx Member Posts: 153 ■■□□□□□□□□
    rather than discuss someone background,
    i believe whatever the background, as long as have passion and spirit + Try Harder
    i prefer preparing future OSCP :)
    so far what i'm do, trying some vulnhub vm, HTB vm and after that maybe learning BO
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