Gse #202
Hi all,
After a painful 45 days of waiting, I've been officially informed that I've earned the GSE. I'm number #202!
I created a thread last Summer about the GSE Multiple Choice exam. After passing the multiple choice exam, I went on to earn the GCFE and GCCC as part of the final stretch of the MSISE program.
With those certs out of the way, I really began focusing on the GSE lab this February (about 3 months prior to flying out to D.C. to take the 2 day hands-on portion).
The 2 day/16 hour lab was the most challenging certification exam/process I've endured. The lab covers a ton of content and you're forced to work under pressure while exercising excellent time management skills. Like all GIAC exams, I'd say that the whole thing was fair, and definitely aligned to the exam objectives.
I created a GitHub repo back in February to serve as a gathering ground for exam tips, resources, and methodologies. I had a few collaborators who contributed too. The repo is organized to align to the primary GSE objectives and sub-objectives. It's really meant to be an aggregate for things useful during preparation: https://github.com/Robicus/gse-study
Upon finishing the exam, I had to sit with mixed feelings and anxiety that plagued me for weeks. Just like those before me, I don't think anyone walks away from the lab saying, "I feel great about it". There were 25-30 of us who took the lab this most recent round, and 9 of us passed. I feel very fortunate.
Phew.
After a painful 45 days of waiting, I've been officially informed that I've earned the GSE. I'm number #202!
I created a thread last Summer about the GSE Multiple Choice exam. After passing the multiple choice exam, I went on to earn the GCFE and GCCC as part of the final stretch of the MSISE program.
With those certs out of the way, I really began focusing on the GSE lab this February (about 3 months prior to flying out to D.C. to take the 2 day hands-on portion).
The 2 day/16 hour lab was the most challenging certification exam/process I've endured. The lab covers a ton of content and you're forced to work under pressure while exercising excellent time management skills. Like all GIAC exams, I'd say that the whole thing was fair, and definitely aligned to the exam objectives.
I created a GitHub repo back in February to serve as a gathering ground for exam tips, resources, and methodologies. I had a few collaborators who contributed too. The repo is organized to align to the primary GSE objectives and sub-objectives. It's really meant to be an aggregate for things useful during preparation: https://github.com/Robicus/gse-study
Upon finishing the exam, I had to sit with mixed feelings and anxiety that plagued me for weeks. Just like those before me, I don't think anyone walks away from the lab saying, "I feel great about it". There were 25-30 of us who took the lab this most recent round, and 9 of us passed. I feel very fortunate.
Phew.
What's Next? eLearnSecurity's eCIR
MSISE, CISSP, GSE (#202), GSEC, GCIA, GCIH, GPEN, GMON, GCFE, GCCC, GCPM, eJPT, AWS CCP
MSISE, CISSP, GSE (#202), GSEC, GCIA, GCIH, GPEN, GMON, GCFE, GCCC, GCPM, eJPT, AWS CCP
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quogue66 Member Posts: 193 ■■■■□□□□□□Congrats and thanks for the study material. That's really interesting to hear that so many people failed the exam. I was under the impression that there was a very low fail rate because SANS was very thorough at helping you prepare. Do you know how many people were that took the lab were also in the master's program?
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Robicus Member Posts: 144 ■■■□□□□□□□Congrats and thanks for the study material. That's really interesting to hear that so many people failed the exam. I was under the impression that there was a very low fail rate because SANS was very thorough at helping you prepare. Do you know how many people were that took the lab were also in the master's program?
Great question! It's really hard to say... I personally know of 5 other students who were in the group. Overall, it was a good mix of students and non-students.
Re: the pass rate: I've been tracking it over the past 2 years (the lab is offered every 6 months) and it seems to be consistently around ~50%, and in some cases, less. GSE is known to be mysterious and there's not a lot of prep, if any at all, that SANS offers. It's an aggregate of knowledge and core topics drawn from 401, 503, and 504, served up in a way that really tests one's application as it relates to the real world.What's Next? eLearnSecurity's eCIR
MSISE, CISSP, GSE (#202), GSEC, GCIA, GCIH, GPEN, GMON, GCFE, GCCC, GCPM, eJPT, AWS CCP -
JDMurray Admin Posts: 13,092 AdminA fantastic accomplishment and only 202 GSEs in all the time it has been offered (<=2001)!
What's next for you, CCIE:Security?
As for GSE study, there are these member-only resources:
SANS advisory-board-open mailing list: https://lists.sans.org/mailman/listinfo/advisory-board-open
GIAC study group on Google Groups: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/giac-study
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josephandre Member Posts: 315 ■■■■□□□□□□That's a torturous wait, especially for an exam with such a high fail rate. Awesome accomplishment man. I have 3 GIAC certs, and have a few more I'd like to get, but would never, and I mean EVER submit myself to that. Hats off.
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JoJoCal19 Mod Posts: 2,835 ModAwesome job! Congrats! Thanks for the study resources as well.Have: CISSP, CISM, CISA, CRISC, eJPT, GCIA, GSEC, CCSP, CCSK, AWS CSAA, AWS CCP, OCI Foundations Associate, ITIL-F, MS Cyber Security - USF, BSBA - UF, MSISA - WGU
Currently Working On: Python, OSCP Prep
Next Up: OSCP
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mjs1104 Member Posts: 30 ■■■□□□□□□□Congrats, great work! I have to take the GSE as part of the MSISE degree and am definitely not looking forward to it. Only 9 people out of a group of 25-30 passed? Wow, that is scary.
Thanks for the Github repository. This looks like an invaluable resource. Thank you for providing that.GSEC, GCIA, GCIH, GCCC, GCPM, GMON, GCTI, GCFA, GREM, GPEN, A+, Net+, Security+, Server+, C|EH, EnCE, ACE, CFCE, etc. -
MalwareMike Member Posts: 147 ■■■□□□□□□□Awesome job and thanks for the link to the material!Current: GSEC, GCIH, GCIA, GWAPT, GYPC, RHCSA, WCNA
2019 Goals: CISSP, Splunk certifications (Certified Core, Power User, Admin, and Architect)
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krucial85 Member Posts: 84 ■■■□□□□□□□I'm obviously late to the party but congratulations! I'm considering taking the GSE but I'm not sure I want to go that route because my current plan is to become an IT auditor when I get out of the military in a couple of years. I've been in pursuit of certifications because I've been told that having certifications will help get me in the door but, at the same time, I don't want to be viewed as a certification hoarder. I need the knowledge of how things work in the civilian world and that's the only way I know how to get it."The way to succeed is never quit. That's it. But be really humble about it."
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josephandre Member Posts: 315 ■■■■□□□□□□While I'd never say 'easy', I actually was surprised at how well I was able to perform the lab. I'd set myself up as if it was going to be torturous and found that it was anything but.
Perhaps it's because I spent 2 entire years studying, or perhaps because I'd heard so many horror stories I over prepared and it just felt easier than it is.
Or perhaps I'm full of it and could never dream of attempting it
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JGS Member Posts: 23 ■■■□□□□□□□Congratulations on the GSE! I hope to do this as well at some point . Thanks for posting the Github material!!!
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MalwareMike Member Posts: 147 ■■■□□□□□□□Congrats!Current: GSEC, GCIH, GCIA, GWAPT, GYPC, RHCSA, WCNA
2019 Goals: CISSP, Splunk certifications (Certified Core, Power User, Admin, and Architect)
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chrisone Member Posts: 2,278 ■■■■■■■■■□Congrats on the pass! I hope to tackle the GSE in 2020.Certs: CISSP, EnCE, OSCP, CRTP, eCTHPv2, eCPPT, eCIR, LFCS, CEH, SPLK-1002, SC-200, SC-300, AZ-900, AZ-500, VHL:Advanced+
2023 Cert Goals: SC-100, eCPTX