AODIT said: My experience briefly working with one and interviewing with one has been dreadful. They want me to critically analyze and breakdown simple tasks like installing office or adding a printer. I'm the type of person who would rather not make a big deal out of simple tasks and not make it rocket science. I do these tasks without even thinking about it and always rely on my research skills if need be. Who can either relate to my experience or provide input as to MSP companies? Do I need them as I'm building IT experience or are there other avenues to take while building my career? Thank you !!!
AODIT said: Thank you guys for your input. I meant working for an MSP and as far as not being able to critically analyze these tasks, I would compare that to critically analyzing how I put my shoes on. Adding a printer? Not only that in my humble opinion IT is so broad there is so many different approaches to different issues and that's what I love about it. If you ask me how do you perform a data back up there's countless approaches on countless devices. Personally, I don't have time for individuals who are going to undermine my abilities, my cat can add a printer.
AODIT said: If you are going to question my abilities to add a printer or any other fundamental basic of low level IT your not the right fit for me.
AODIT said: Yeah I went to school, I have an Associates Degree in Computer Information Systems and I have certifications. If you are going to question my abilities to add a printer or any other fundamental basic of low level IT your not the right fit for me. I'm a grown man looking for challenging ventures that are going to push my growth and career to the next level, not a company whose going to push me down and try to keep me down. Within my brief experiences with MSPs that's exactly what they have tried to do.
DatabaseHead said: AODIT said: Yeah I went to school, I have an Associates Degree in Computer Information Systems and I have certifications. If you are going to question my abilities to add a printer or any other fundamental basic of low level IT your not the right fit for me. I'm a grown man looking for challenging ventures that are going to push my growth and career to the next level, not a company whose going to push me down and try to keep me down. Within my brief experiences with MSPs that's exactly what they have tried to do. Be thankful you identified this at the end of the day. I'm not here to judge, but one important lesson here. Follow your own self not the opinions of other.... They don't have enough facts to make an informed decision for you.
AvgITGeek said: @jamesindc Where are you working now?
JDMurray said: When you see very specific questions in a job interview this might be a clue as to the problems the organization has been experiencing with its employees or in hiring qualified candidates. In this case with the printer example, I would assume it is just an exercise allowing the candidate to demonstrate how technically detailed, thorough, and efficient their thought process is regarding a common task. Someone who would take exception at performing such a menial exercise in a job interview would be likely to also refuse to perform work given to them that they considered or beneath their skill level. As a hiring manager, I would never want to hire such a candidate that would pick-and-choose how they wanted to help the organization.
DatabaseHead said: I would hope you wouldn't ask a .net developer who is making 160,000 a year to help Lois in accounting troubleshoot Excel..... If you did and I was your boss we would be having a chat..... The lowest paid resource who can do the job should do the job........ Management 101
EANx said: DatabaseHead said: I would hope you wouldn't ask a .net developer who is making 160,000 a year to help Lois in accounting troubleshoot Excel..... If you did and I was your boss we would be having a chat..... The lowest paid resource who can do the job should do the job........ Management 101 And sometimes that's the 160k developer.My team knows that we all chip in and that 98% of what they do will be what they were hired for but the other 2% will be what the organization needs. I'd rather pay a 160k developer for 5 minutes of a basic task than have a 60k resource sitting around for an hour waiting for the "right" person to come by and help. Finance 101
DatabaseHead said: EANx said: DatabaseHead said: I would hope you wouldn't ask a .net developer who is making 160,000 a year to help Lois in accounting troubleshoot Excel..... If you did and I was your boss we would be having a chat..... The lowest paid resource who can do the job should do the job........ Management 101 And sometimes that's the 160k developer.My team knows that we all chip in and that 98% of what they do will be what they were hired for but the other 2% will be what the organization needs. I'd rather pay a 160k developer for 5 minutes of a basic task than have a 60k resource sitting around for an hour waiting for the "right" person to come by and help. Finance 101 Where did you come up with that arbitrary number? How and why did you derive 98% and that's the only resource? Sounds like you have a staffing issue and in that case you and I would be having a chat.....This was the comment: As a hiring manager, I would never want to hire such a candidate that would pick-and-choose how they wanted to help the organization. This was a blanket statement not set with any clauses or conditions... Let's not move the field goals, but with you it's quite common.....
EANx said: DatabaseHead said: EANx said: DatabaseHead said: I would hope you wouldn't ask a .net developer who is making 160,000 a year to help Lois in accounting troubleshoot Excel..... If you did and I was your boss we would be having a chat..... The lowest paid resource who can do the job should do the job........ Management 101 And sometimes that's the 160k developer.My team knows that we all chip in and that 98% of what they do will be what they were hired for but the other 2% will be what the organization needs. I'd rather pay a 160k developer for 5 minutes of a basic task than have a 60k resource sitting around for an hour waiting for the "right" person to come by and help. Finance 101 Where did you come up with that arbitrary number? How and why did you derive 98% and that's the only resource? Sounds like you have a staffing issue and in that case you and I would be having a chat.....This was the comment: As a hiring manager, I would never want to hire such a candidate that would pick-and-choose how they wanted to help the organization. This was a blanket statement not set with any clauses or conditions... Let's not move the field goals, but with you it's quite common..... It's called a discussion forum for a reason, for a discussion. Not a "only talk about the exact words DatabaseHead wants to discuss."I have a full staff of team players, some making over 200k, not individuals that are too good to do the work that needs to be done.
