Cisco certification changes Feb 24th 2020

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  • yoba222yoba222 Posts: 1,053Member ■■■■■■■□□□
    After all those free Cyber Ops trainings and exams Cisco gave away. That was a lot of fun (and much appreciated from Cisco for providing it).

    This is probably better though. After having done the CCNA R&S and then the Cyber Ops later, I personally feel that if an employer required someone with a CCNA, having the Cyber Ops alone shouldn't be a worthy qualifier because too much networking stuff wasn't on the Cyber Ops.
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  • chriscurtis83chriscurtis83 Sec+, CCNA, ITIL, MCSE, MA, BS, TS/SCI, PMP Posts: 27Member ■■■□□□□□□□
    What does the training badge do?

    Is just for your linked in?


    What does the training badge do?

    Is just for your linked in?


    I guess, it really doesn't mean anything since its not something new CCNA's can get. Just shows you are a old timer.
  • bjpeterbjpeter Posts: 195Member ■■■□□□□□□□
    Will candidates now be able to move back and forth between questions or mark them for review later in the new CCNA exam?
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  • stryder144stryder144 Posts: 1,592Member ■■■■■■■■□□
    bjpeter said:
    Will candidates now be able to move back and forth between questions or mark them for review later in the new CCNA exam?
    That is an excellent question that I have not heard anything about.  I have listened to David Bombal and Network Chuck and I don't think they even asked the question.
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  • k4pplak4ppla Posts: 16Registered Users ■■■□□□□□□□
    Cisco just announced that the Ccna Cyber Ops will not be retired.

    Officiel announcement 

  • JDMurrayJDMurray Certification Invigilator Surf City, USAPosts: 11,471Admin Admin
    It's true! This page indicates that CCNA CyberOps is NOT one of the CCNA tracks to be replaced by the new CCNA exam in 2020. Now if only Cisco would either make the content of 210-250 SECFND worth the $300 they charge for it or lower the price. (NOTE: Cisco's decisions are subject to change pending an outcry from its customer community.)

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  • bjpeterbjpeter Posts: 195Member ■■■□□□□□□□
    bjpeter said:
    Will candidates now be able to move back and forth between questions or mark them for review later in the new CCNA exam?
    That is an excellent question that I have not heard anything about.  I have listened to David Bombal and Network Chuck and I don't think they even asked the question.
    That will be great if candidates can review their answers prior to submitting their exam for scoring.
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  • stryder144stryder144 Posts: 1,592Member ■■■■■■■■□□
    bjpeter said:
    bjpeter said:
    Will candidates now be able to move back and forth between questions or mark them for review later in the new CCNA exam?
    That is an excellent question that I have not heard anything about.  I have listened to David Bombal and Network Chuck and I don't think they even asked the question.
    That will be great if candidates can review their answers prior to submitting their exam for scoring.
    I agree.  I made a mistake on the second exam that a question several down answered for me.  Would have liked to have been able to go back and change that answer.  Still, a pass is a pass.
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  • kaijukaiju Posts: 402Member ■■■■■■□□□□
    Not written in stone but from what I hear, there will be more associate level specialty exams available by Feb 2020. This info is from a certified Cisco instructor. 
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  • LonerVampLonerVamp OSCP, GCFA, GWAPT, CISSP, OSWP, CCNA Cyber Ops, Sec+, Linux+, AWS CCP, CCSK Posts: 392Member ■■■■■□□□□□
    I hope they continue that route. I mean, it helps them hire for Talos, at least!

    The current language is definitely really strange and out there. Sure, the CCNA isn't replacing Cyber Ops, but there's no indication the Cyber Ops cert gets you anywhere special yet, either. Unless I've missed something.

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  • PaycheckPaycheck Posts: 16Member ■■■□□□□□□□
    Okay, here is a question that I kind of found half an answer to in the Cisco documentation, but I need opinions.

    If I am a current CCNA R&S, and I take another CCNA exam, like CCNA Wireless or CCNA Data Center to renew my CCNA R&S before the end of 2019, I would have my original CCNA R&S and this other CCNA Wireless / Data Center / whatever.

    Now here's the question:  On February 24, am I still a CCNA R&S and CCNA Wireless / Data Center / whatever, or am I just now one "CCNA"?

    I'd prefer to put on resumes my multiple CCNAs instead of just one "CCNA", as most employers and contract agencies will not understand the nuances of the latest Cisco changes.

    Packing 10 separate exams into one, it is going to have to be one big test, if they will ask questions from each track.

    I don't like this new idea, I'd rather keep the CCNAs more separated, like Security, Wireless, Data Center, etc.
  • NetworkNewbNetworkNewb Posts: 3,276Member ■■■■■■■■■□
    Paycheck said:


    Now here's the question:  On February 24, am I still a CCNA R&S and CCNA Wireless / Data Center / whatever, or am I just now one "CCNA"?



    Q: What will happen to my existing certification when the new program goes into effect February 24, 2020?
    A: For CCNA, Specialist and CCNP: Your current certification is still valid and will be active until its expiration date. When the new program goes into effect February 24, 2020, your current certification will be transitioned to an equivalent in the new program.

    Source: https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en_us/training-events/training-certification-faqs.pdf

    From what I've read you'll just be a CCNA and the expiration date on your cert will still be the same expiration date on the new CCNA title.  I'm sure no one would care if you listed them out though.  
  • yoba222yoba222 Posts: 1,053Member ■■■■■■■□□□
    edited July 14
    I don't know much about software development on Cisco products. It seems like DevNet Certification is a term invented by Cisco to describe developing things for "the new network." The new network, a marketing term also invented by Cisco,  describes what seems to be mainly web development that's focused around real time web traffic type things (e.g. voice and video chat), but also more than that.

    While Devnet has been used as a term to describe Cisco's well-regarded resources at developer.cisco.com for a number of years, DevNet certification appears to me to be vaporware. Or maybe vaporpaper is a better term. 

    Or am I wrong and DevNet has been a thing for a number of years? Please chime in if I need schooling here. The whole point of this cert revamp, according to Cisco (and I quote), is "unleashing the full capabilities of the new  network."

    I wonder if this is Cisco playing catch-up to Zoom and all the others with Cisco's mediocre WebEx product, but with much more ambitious goals than just having the best video chat client. Sort of Cisco's pogo-stick message of "developers, developers, developers. . ." in the hopes that you get vendor-locked into Cisco's proprietary video API for your IoT app or whatever. . .

    I though Cyber Ops was great, but I'm a cynic and I hope to be pleasantly surprised.


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  • stryder144stryder144 Posts: 1,592Member ■■■■■■■■□□
    Their DevNet certification hasn't been released yet, at least not to my knowledge (and I am NOT an expert by any stretch of the imagination).  From the David Bombal/Network Chuck videos I watched, it seems to me that DevNet certification is intended for network automation specific tasks, so not really building apps for use on Cisco networks...again, not even close to being an expert so take my words with a grain of very, very small salt.  It might be the integration of DevOps with Cisco networks?
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  • NetworkNewbNetworkNewb Posts: 3,276Member ■■■■■■■■■□
    edited July 15
    yoba222 said:
    Or am I wrong and DevNet has been a thing for a number of years? Please chime in if I need schooling here. The whole point of this cert revamp, according to Cisco (and I quote), is "unleashing the full capabilities of the new  network."




     Devnet is Cisco's term for their developer program that has been around since 2014...  And no, doubt you won't find any jobs looking for a certification that hasn't even been released
  • thomas_thomas_ CompTIA N+/S+/L+; CCNA R&S; CCNP R&S Posts: 908Member ■■■■■■□□□□
    @yoba222 - The new DevNet certs haven't been released, but Cisco does have Network Programmability certs that have been around for awhile:

    https://learningnetwork.cisco.com/community/certifications/network-programmability/

    Also, DevNet is also what they refer to the developer portion of their website.  They have sandboxes for various technologies that you can use for free:


    You might have better luck searching the job descriptions for the technology areas covered in the current Network Programmability certs such as:

    Python, RESTful APIs, RESTCONF, NETCONF, OPENFlow, YANG models, Puppet, Chef, Ansible, APIC-EM, JSON, XML, etc.
  • bowmattybowmatty Member Posts: 97Member ■■■□□□□□□□
    Hi guys, 

    Just preparing for the new CCNA exam by going through the Exam Objectives. "Describe characteristics of network topology architectures" would you think Cisco 2 Tier topology as in Distribution switches & Access Switches or would that mean neutral 2 Tier network topology??

    What do you guys think?

    1.2 Describe characteristics of network topology architectures

    • 1.2.a 2 tier
    • 1.2.b 3 tier
  • bowmattybowmatty Member Posts: 97Member ■■■□□□□□□□
    Thanks NetworkNewb
  • LunchbocksLunchbocks Senior Member FloridaPosts: 292Member ■■■■□□□□□□
    I personally think they are referring to the Cisco 2-Tier and 3-Tier topologies like in the current exam. This is not based on anything I have heard or read, but the 2 and 3-tiered topology has been the core topology that their network designs are based on, so I don't think that would change.


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  • bowmattybowmatty Member Posts: 97Member ■■■□□□□□□□
    So with regards to the new exam would you base all describing characteristic questions on cisco products?
  • K-9K-9 Posts: 82Member ■■■□□□□□□□
    For those of us with multiple CCxAs, we are screwed over. 
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