Smallguy wrote: thanks for the info I actually used the site to build scripts to creat a few hundred object in my final project for school. the practice quesion on my trancender jsut through me for a loop when it wanted things set up line by line I'm alot better at reading and decifering code than I am at wrting the code I have some VB and SQL exp but it;s been a while and even took a course in C scripting is definitely my weak point (not dsadd,dsmod) so it is sometihng I plan to learn as I work my way up.