Pres Trump to make Federal Jobs More Accessible to Those Without Degrees

JDMurrayJDMurray MSIT InfoSec, CISSP, SSCP, GSEC, EnCE, C|EH, CySA+, PenTest+, CASP+, Security+Surf City, USAAdmin Posts: 11,749 Admin
Good for those seeking employment and bad for those whose business is related to education.

Bloomberg Law: Federal Jobs to Be More Accessible to Those Without Degrees (June 26, 2020)

For the TL;DR-impaired:
  • Executive Order to be implemented within six months
  • Two-thirds of Americans don’t have college degrees
  • The government has about 2.1 million civilian workers, making it the largest employer in the U.S.
  • Only about 6% of federal workers are under the age of 30
  • Could help the government recruit younger employees who don’t have the educational backgrounds that are currently required for government jobs.
  • "Hiring should be based primarily on talent and not on arbitrary educational requirements," said White House adviser and first daughter Ivanka Trump.

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  • DatabaseHeadDatabaseHead Teradata Assc 16, CSM, MS Access 2016, 2019 Member Posts: 2,563 ■■■■■■■■■□
    edited June 27
    Thanks for sharing JD, good move by the President.  I always cringed at all these smart IT professionals on here going back to school to get a degree in their 30s and 40s when they were doing great.....    The glass ceiling forcing them into doing something they didn't want....  

    Nevertheless good to hear.  
  • stryder144stryder144 Senior Member Member Posts: 1,672 ■■■■■■■■□□
    I think it will still take many years before the educational bias is really gone or at least diminished enough to make a real difference. It may not show up on fed job reqs but I think it will still be a case of "if I had to have one to get my job, you need to have one, too".
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  • jayc71jayc71 Member Member Posts: 112 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Highly talented IT pros can make a lot more money as a govt contractor than as a govt employee.  The only reason I see to go gov is for resume fodder.
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  • AverageJoeAverageJoe CISM, CDPSE, CISSP, SSCP, CYSA+, SEC+, NET+, A+, LINUX+, PROJECT+ Member Posts: 306 ■■■■□□□□□□
    jayc71 said:
    Highly talented IT pros can make a lot more money as a govt contractor than as a govt employee.  The only reason I see to go gov is for resume fodder.
    While you're definitely right that you can make more money as a govt contractor, a lot of govt contractors seek out govt employment for stability and job security, plus health, retirement, and time off benefits, and promotion/advancement potential. 
  • JDMurrayJDMurray MSIT InfoSec, CISSP, SSCP, GSEC, EnCE, C|EH, CySA+, PenTest+, CASP+, Security+ Surf City, USAAdmin Posts: 11,749 Admin
    The relaxing of degree requirements is not without its disadvantages. Degrees and certification help hiring managers determine which candidates might be qualified for a position before actually interviewing them. To get an interview, candidates with resumes that lack these distinctions require their described work history to more closely match what a hiring manager is looking for. Therefore, a descriptive and clearly-written resume is even more important for people that don't have eye-catching degrees and certs to appetize a hiring manager's interest.
  • AzazelloAzazello PMP, ISO 27001, CCNA, Network+ Member Posts: 9 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Two-thirds of Americans don’t have college degrees

    I personally accept that the percentage is actually lower than 33, i.e. there's 'over-reporting' of degree attainment on the census. Think about it-- degree-holders are not going to lie that they don't have a degree!

    But if we go with 30%, that means that for every 9 people you meet (include yourself to make it 10), 7 of them don't have a bachelor or higher degree.

    Explains alot about our society.

    Still, I do agree that breaking the stone-wall of degree bias for the govt jobs is a good thing, given the current realities.
  • jasper_zanjanijasper_zanjani Sec+, Net+, Lx+, LPIC-1, Certified Associate in Python Programming (PCAP) Tampa, FLMember Posts: 76 ■■■■□□□□□□
    That's great that hiring requirements are being relaxed but... were you guys really going to suspend your careers for years and decades by not getting a degree, if that's all that kept you from your goals? you guys have signatures containing 3 consecutive generations of Windows Server certifications but you weren't going to get a 4 year degree from college? college is not THAT bad
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