What is the largest increase you have received with the same employer?
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I know the biggest pay bumps come from changing employers so wondering what others have experienced switching jobs within the same company. Yesterday I had a discussion with a former manager about an opportunity and that evening I received an offer for a 22% increase. That is the largest I have ever been offered when moving to a new role at the same company.
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scott28tt Member Posts: 686 ■■■■■□□□□□
I’ve had one of about 20% plus another of about 15%
The biggest % I ever had was a counteroffer after being offered a job externally, that was an instant 40% increase on my base salaryVCP2 / VCP3 / VCP4 / VCP5 / VCAP4-DCA / VCI / vExpert 2010-2012
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tedjames Member Posts: 1,179 ■■■■■■■■□□
scott28tt said:I’ve had one of about 20% plus another of about 15%
The biggest % I ever had was a counteroffer after being offered a job externally, that was an instant 40% increase on my base salary
That's what happened to me. Boss offered me a 12% increase to stick around after I received another offer. Sometimes it takes a job offer to make your current boss realize that he needs you around.
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JDMurray Admin Posts: 13,074 Admin
I once received a 12.5% in-place increase because my employer was re-tooling its salary levels to be more competitive in its industry. I don't remember if I was more shocked at being given more money for doing no extra work or that I was being so underpaid for years! -
TechGromit Member Posts: 2,156 ■■■■■■■■■□
Looking back at my W2 tax forms, My total salary compensation jumped 23% from 2017 to 2018 after taking a promotion. It was a 15% increase in base salary, and 23% we the increase bonus level was factored in.
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@scott28tt and @tedjames - How much longer did you remain with those employers after accepting the counteroffer? I ask because my current manager once said he does not give counteroffers because he figures people will leave at some point anyways if they were already prepared to accept another offer. I am curious to hear your motivation for staying at a place that decided not to bump up your pay until they saw another employer showing interest.
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cyberguypr Mod Posts: 6,928 Mod
My best internal moves have been role changes. Anywhere between 15-25% bump. My best external bump was 40%. -
Qord Member Posts: 632 ■■■■□□□□□□
20%, from 40k to 48k. Unexpected and out of the blue, and definitely appreciated. I was told it was get me closer to on-par with my coworkers. -
stryder144 Member Posts: 1,684 ■■■■■■■■□□
I think I have had a 20% increase internal and a 100%+ increase moving to another company.The easiest thing to be in the world is you. The most difficult thing to be is what other people want you to be. Don't let them put you in that position. ~ Leo Buscaglia
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E Double U said:@scott28tt and @tedjames - How much longer did you remain with those employers after accepting the counteroffer? I ask because my current manager once said he does not give counteroffers because he figures people will leave at some point anyways if they were already prepared to accept another offer. I am curious to hear your motivation for staying at a place that decided not to bump up your pay until they saw another employer showing interest.When I received that offer, I checked the Texas state salaries database (Texas state government salaries are published) to see what others in my prospective new agency were making, and I also checked what others in the state in similar roles were making. When I told my boss about the offer, I also showed him where I was in relation to my peers around the state. That's when he realized that I was being underpaid and went to HR to request a salary adjustment for me. He was able to meet the other agency's offer. I stayed another couple of months. However, a job with a boss I really wanted to work for at another agency opened, and I applied. This was something I was waiting for over the better part of a year. I applied, interviewed, and got the job. I gave my then current boss three weeks notice and told him that I was not using his salary adjustment to pivot into an even higher salary. I told him that I was already planning to leave because I felt I was in a dead end and saw this new opportunity as a way to grow in my career. I told him that I enjoyed working for him and that it was nothing personal. He said that he should've done something far sooner than he did. I should've said something to him much earlier, too.TL/DR: My motivation for staying was essentially that this was my first job in security (as a technical writer and program manager, not a security analyst), and I needed to build myself up into the type of candidate that other agencies wanted for security analysts. As soon as I felt I was ready, I started applying. It just took some time. Meanwhile, my job had become dead end, but I had to stick it out. My patience paid off.
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JoJoCal19 Mod Posts: 2,835 Mod
Never got crap moving around with the same employer. As a matter of fact, at a couple of them I saw in the HR guidelines they actually had a cap at 10% for any move! External has always yielded tremendous jumps. My move in April netted me a mind-boggling 58% increase on an already high salary. And oh, that wasn't even including RSUsHave: CISSP, CISM, CISA, CRISC, eJPT, GCIA, GSEC, CCSP, CCSK, AWS CSAA, AWS CCP, OCI Foundations Associate, ITIL-F, MS Cyber Security - USF, BSBA - UF, MSISA - WGU
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balance Member Posts: 244 ■■■■■□□□□□
The largest I have ever gotten from a single employer was $3,500.00 extra annual and a 10K bonus ( to offset taxes for the company paying for my move). If I don't jump to a different employer every 18-24 months I would never make any decent money. I really don't like jumping around to be hoents but what can do you do. -
UnixGuy Mod Posts: 4,570 Mod
Managed to get 50% increase when I changed jobs in June. I think it's my biggest jump.I always tried to change roles internally but was never successful. I don't think I'm patient enough so I move on when things don't workout the way I want them to.This time I'm planning to stay longer because I want my next jump to be much better in terms of responsibilities and compensation. -
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@JoJoCal19 - 58% is rather impressive
@stryder144 - 100% increase!?!?! Either you were extremely underpaid or wow...just wow. Please teach me lol
@balance - Is it safe to assume that was a one time bonus? I wonder what was the % increase of the additional $3,500 annually. If you were making $10,000 annually then that's a 35% increase, but if you were making $100,000 then its only 3.5%.Alphabet soup from (ISC)2, ISACA, GIAC, EC-Council, Microsoft, ITIL, Cisco, Scrum, CompTIA, AWS -
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E Double U said:@JoJoCal19 - 58% is rather impressive
@stryder144 - 100% increase!?!?! Either you were extremely underpaid or wow...just wow. Please teach me lol
@balance - Is it safe to assume that was a one time bonus? I wonder what was the % increase of the additional $3,500 annually. If you were making $10,000 annually then that's a 35% increase, but if you were making $100,000 then its only 3.5%. -
scott28tt Member Posts: 686 ■■■■■□□□□□
E Double U said:@scott28tt and @tedjames - How much longer did you remain with those employers after accepting the counteroffer? I ask because my current manager once said he does not give counteroffers because he figures people will leave at some point anyways if they were already prepared to accept another offer. I am curious to hear your motivation for staying at a place that decided not to bump up your pay until they saw another employer showing interest.VCP2 / VCP3 / VCP4 / VCP5 / VCAP4-DCA / VCI / vExpert 2010-2012
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egrizzly Member Posts: 533 ■■■■■□□□□□
@E Double U
The vast majority of HR departments at mid-sized to large-sized enterprises have specified ranges for each job role. They are also locked in by policy at how much increase they can give employees at year end. Not all of them have an _employee retention pay policy_ which allows them to give you a bump when you get an offer from a competitor.
Anyways...how do you get higher pay from the same employer? Well, if you happen to be a Tier 1 who came in at the lower end of the range (maybe weak negotiation) and you wanted to take a different job title which is also Tier 1, you can take that opportunity to negotiate strong and then be at the higher end of that Tier 1 range. Same if you're moving up from Tier 1 to Tier 2. How do you know which jobs are which Tier? You have to call HR and have them explain it to you. Some HR offices even have spreadsheets that they send out to employees which explain which roles are in which tiers and their salary ranges.
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@egrizzly - Well, that didn't help me because I wasn't looking for advice lol. I was just curious about others situations.
I employer has a labor agreement that shows are pay scales readily available on our intranet. With a few extra clicks on the org chart and looking at job descriptions you can see where everyone lands on that scale. I like the transparency.Alphabet soup from (ISC)2, ISACA, GIAC, EC-Council, Microsoft, ITIL, Cisco, Scrum, CompTIA, AWS