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!30

Hey to all , I want opionion's , from all of you.

I'm 18 , last class , until university, no job before , I am to old for this , CISCO ?
How can I get a job at college ? first year , a job where I gain money to live and that job will pay me the cert's CISCO cert's and get experience to.I'll like to become CCIE , until 22 , how can CCIE with experience win ?

I want to hear opionion's , By the way ,look at my cert's :P

Danman32

If you're too old for Cisco, then I am ancient!

Don't rush things too fast. From what I gather, CCIE requires experience. There's no guarantee you'll get a job with your school, but you may be able to find an internship arranged by your school by some company.

I'm sure you'll do fine in your education and career though. You're already ahead of most people your age.

Enjoy life a little, but not to the point of neglecting your career objectives. You're only young once. Balance is the key.

adrianxen

From another post from you:

Quote: http://www.techexams.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=16291
"Try to learn , not to **** , but if you **** but learn , keep going"

I think that something is wrong here ...

!30

I wanted to say that if you per example : know the answer to a question , or if someone tel'ls you that the exam will be like that , focus on that .. etc , if someone tell's you the answer's but you UNDERSTAND why's that , why the answer that was told to you is corect , you'll not cheating , knewing he answer , yo'll learning !

Yes I know my english suck's :P

adrianxen

I remember that there was a thread last year on techexams about cheating. One of the conclusions was that even if you know the answer on a question that is on any-exam you take, that means that you are cheating, even if you know which is the correct answer and you understand the question. Is cheating because in real life it's possible and very likely to encounter problems that you don't know rapidly how to solve them, here plays a big role the experience that you have accumulated during years of working.
I hope for you career that you not use any braindumps.
Enjoy your youth and accumulate real work experience.

Adrian

Danman32

The problem with the braindumps is that you have the exact question. That will affect your score compared to going into a test without previously seeing any of the test questions.

Its the same as practice exams. You can know the stuff, but you do not as good on the practice exam, mainly because of how the question applies the topic. After a few runs, the practice test doesn't properly reflect your skill level anymore.

!30

This I was telling about , but many are using braindump's , not me , I want to learn .

The point was what I wrote up , how can I get a job ? what have I got to know to gain experience ? How can I be prepared ?

-it's very hard for me to practice all on my computer , I haven't got an instructor or someone to help or something like that , a job could help me gaining experience very fast and obtaining new cert's more rapidly and with success !

Danman32

Employment certainly does give you experience. Also books can get you training if your job doesn't provide it.

You say you don't have an instructor. Well, you're on one of the biggest istructors ever: the internet. Your local bookstore is probably the second biggest.

ms_visio

!30 wrote:

Hey to all , I want opionion's , from all of you.

I'm 18 , last class , until university, no job before , I am to old for this , CISCO ?
How can I get a job at college ? first year , a job where I gain money to live and that job will pay me the cert's CISCO cert's and get experience to.I'll like to become CCIE , until 22 , how can CCIE with experience win ?

I want to hear opionion's , By the way ,look at my cert's :P

You are rushing way too fast. CCIE is not like CCNA where some one can use some sort of brain **** and pass the exam. It requires lots of experience. Do one thing at a time as i have seen people making 10 plans and at the end of the day they cant achieve anything!! So be real and get some job experience first. You will be there with time

!30

I know , your right man , that's way I want to gain knowledge , and obtain a job to get myself on real job obtaining experience !

nel

hey guys just reading whats going on here. and as you can see from my certs etc i am no genius (yet lol) but the guys certs from romania have, increased dramatically over the last few weeks its scary! i can remember reading a post from you and u did not have 290, 271 or your ccna!

i am no expert but you must have some talent by getting all those certs in a small space of time!

i hope i am wrong in what i am thinking!

!30

In place of judging , but never mind man , many of the cert's I obtain in time , but now I write them there .. like CCNA almost an year . but , expert's like you , judge before think or even search to see wht's about

-and to say to you , not thinking so much of this romanian guy :
-I learn almost 2 year's for my CCNA , from 15 year's up to 17.
-and these Microsoft cert's , now I'm taking a couple of them , having almost 6 year's of windows experience.Form 13 year's Windows is my preferate OS.
-but you know , you have to be bor to understand and to get the right's thing's , time and of course money .
-btw , are you staying 20/24 , 7/7 day's of week and learn the new thing's ? because this is all what I'm doing in my summer holiday and in school time to
-so what's your problem really is man ? you think is so hard to learn Windows and to take some MS cert's ? ..go on tell us , tell me !

Next time

nel

well if you read my post a little bit better i said i hope i was wrong in what i was thinking i did not say or imply anything! only that when i read a few posts with your name on you didnt have half those certs to your name - and in my country i have the right to freedom of speech so if i did want to say anything i could. but i did not say anything directly as i feel i have no right to.

oooo and btw when you asked "are you staying 20/24 , 7/7 day's of week and learn the new thing's ? because this is all what I'm doing in my summer holiday and in school time to"....WELL some people in the world actually have full time jobs so i am sorry if i do not have enough certs to my name as my full time employment/ part-time degree takes up alot of my time! but as time will pass i will gain my mcsa's etc and i will also have experiance to show for it...i have been working since a month after leaving school at 16....do you have any experiance? or are you a paper cert?

EdTheLad

Now Now kids, settle down...

nel

hahaha touche @ ed the lad

!30

bighornsheep

!30 wrote:

In place of judging , but never mind man , many of the cert's I obtain in time , but now I write them there .. like CCNA almost an year . but , expert's like you , judge before think or even search to see wht's about

-and to say to you , not thinking so much of this romanian guy :
-I learn almost 2 year's for my CCNA , from 15 year's up to 17.
-and these Microsoft cert's , now I'm taking a couple of them , having almost 6 year's of windows experience.Form 13 year's Windows is my preferate OS.
-but you know , you have to be bor to understand and to get the right's thing's , time and of course money .
-btw , are you staying 20/24 , 7/7 day's of week and learn the new thing's ? because this is all what I'm doing in my summer holiday and in school time to
-so what's your problem really is man ? you think is so hard to learn Windows and to take some MS cert's ? ..go on tell us , tell me !

Next time

You joined this forum like 2 weeks before me, I've read and has been active in some of your threads. And we've also exchanged words via PM. Hopefully you wouldn't mind my 2 cents....

I definitely think that you have lots of potential, and you are well on your way to having a great background with IT. I remember reading some of your posts about braindumps....(I'm not saying you use them, I'm not saying you dont use them, the point is, you know what you think about braindumps)....hopefully you'll enjoy your journey through learning more about IT, instead of rushing and trying to get all the 'advanced certs'....yes CCIE seems all cool, and many of us would like to get it too...but somebody in this forum also has a signature like:

"lots of people have MCSE, CCIE, etc...but no J.O.B."

I'm not judging you...I just think that since you're still young...you have lots of time...dont think that you have to have this by this age, and have that by that age...there's no ratio between age and ability....you could be 50 with loads of certs but know nothing...or 25 with only a few but knows alot....

ps...hopefully I didnt sound like I'm some old fart talking down on you...I'm 21..and I'm only speaking to you from experience.

!30

LukeQuake

bighornsheep wrote:

!30 wrote:

In place of judging , but never mind man , many of the cert's I obtain in time , but now I write them there .. like CCNA almost an year . but , expert's like you , judge before think or even search to see wht's about

-and to say to you , not thinking so much of this romanian guy :
-I learn almost 2 year's for my CCNA , from 15 year's up to 17.
-and these Microsoft cert's , now I'm taking a couple of them , having almost 6 year's of windows experience.Form 13 year's Windows is my preferate OS.
-but you know , you have to be bor to understand and to get the right's thing's , time and of course money .
-btw , are you staying 20/24 , 7/7 day's of week and learn the new thing's ? because this is all what I'm doing in my summer holiday and in school time to
-so what's your problem really is man ? you think is so hard to learn Windows and to take some MS cert's ? ..go on tell us , tell me !

Next time

You joined this forum like 2 weeks before me, I've read and has been active in some of your threads. And we've also exchanged words via PM. Hopefully you wouldn't mind my 2 cents....

I definitely think that you have lots of potential, and you are well on your way to having a great background with IT. I remember reading some of your posts about braindumps....(I'm not saying you use them, I'm not saying you dont use them, the point is, you know what you think about braindumps)....hopefully you'll enjoy your journey through learning more about IT, instead of rushing and trying to get all the 'advanced certs'....yes CCIE seems all cool, and many of us would like to get it too...but somebody in this forum also has a signature like:

"lots of people have MCSE, CCIE, etc...but no J.O.B."

I'm not judging you...I just think that since you're still young...you have lots of time...dont think that you have to have this by this age, and have that by that age...there's no ratio between age and ability....you could be 50 with loads of certs but know nothing...or 25 with only a few but knows alot....

ps...hopefully I didnt sound like I'm some old fart talking down on you...I'm 21..and I'm only speaking to you from experience.

Well said, this is a topic that I feel very strongly about.

I myself have been working full time in an I.T. roll for almost a year now, in which time I have almost achieved my MCSA, this is from working hard in my spare time.

People who use braindumps are cheating the certification system and they are cheating themselves. They gain absolutely no respect from myself or anyone on this forum, the truth will soon come out when they are confronted with a real life situation.

In my opinion, the best way forward for anyone in an IT role is to gain certs but back them up with real world experience. Remember, that as part of a team there will usually be more experienced people, whom you can learn from, even if they don’t specialise in your area.