Ouch! System Administrators going down

computerguy9355

http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/01/technology/nextbigsysadmin0801.biz2/index.htm

go read that article, pretty interesting... just as i predicted, software administration is moving overseas!

!30

Pretty interesting,a real thing to , but you know ? They'll still need someone to design , build , mantain they're netowrk's .. etc.. etc.. consider CISCO , don't let any article's to make you think : " Wow , I have to reconsider " , but make you think " Wow , I have to learn more , practice and be the best , to obtain thath job " !

This is my point !

Olajuwon

Nothing to worry about.

int80h

Servers are becomming more and more like appliances. Just look at the google search appliance. Configure once and walk away.

computerguy9355

exactly, most of the sever configuration can be done remotely

honestly do you guys see any futures on network engineering? (Cisco, Juniper, Extreme Networks) ?

thats the way i see it

!30

My point is , don't let this information to disconsider young people in networking

keatron

And along with this change will come more and more security problems. At least it's good for infosec.

int80h wrote:

Servers are becomming more and more like appliances. Just look at the google search appliance. Configure once and walk away.

Yeah, and it'll probably be months before anybody realizes that some kid in Brazil has owned that server for the last few weeks.

garv221

I can see the lower level of server support going off shore. Nothing wrong with that, like the article says, it will free up more time for the IT staff. Its very similiar to me buying 24x7 Cisco smartnet with a tech replacing failed hardware or buying the 24x7 Dell replacement parts with a tech. If a server is having problems, just make a phone call and small aspect of IT is handled by an outsourced company. Companys will always need someone onsite because no one can do a better job than someone who knows the systems and is physically in the server room.

keatron- How are things in Chicago these days? My G/F almost talked me into a trip out there a few weekends ago. She wanted to go shopping.

computerguy9355

garv, be prepared to burn a hole in your wallet

it all depends on where you go in Chicago, there are differnet shops and most of them are pretty expensive

garv221

computerguy9355 wrote:

garv, be prepared to burn a hole in your wallet

it all depends on where you go in Chicago, there are differnet shops and most of them are pretty expensive

Oh yes! I know all about it, its about a 2hr drive my home and I try avoid it as much as possible. She did some Christmas shopping there last year with her girl friends, it wasn't that bad considering the stores will ship the purchases back home to avoid taxes which is nice.

Slowhand

This looks more like something we're all going to have to weather for a while, as opposed to a more permanent change. This article really does talk down IT work, calling it "expensive" and really only focuses on the fact that it costs money to "monitor servers". It gives the impression that most business people seem to have about us, that we sit around all day doing nothing. (Well. . . that may not be completely untrue, depending on where you are, but still. )

In any case, I think this is more wishful thinking on behalf of CEO's and upper management types, rather than a new era in outsourcing. It may be tougher to get a job for a while, at least with a non IT-focused company, but I don't think it'll be permanent. When companies begin realizing that their IT support overseas can't stay all weekend and upgrade their servers, and the security contractors they've hired after all kinds of problems arise are so expensive it's costing them well over their IT budget to have them there for a week, things will roll back to our shores. (This might even be good news for our counterparts in software development, if the backlash is big enough.)

garv221

I also think that the people who write those articles along with the people who analyze other peoples jobs and wite articles about it; their job should be cut or outsourced. They help no one and only get the ball rolling with issues like this. The two guys from office space who cut jobs should come into their office and simply remove them from their cube. Too many people start believing everything they read b/c some weasel journalist wrote an article.

Olajuwon

Like I said before, there is nothing to worry about. It's just another article downplaying the salary of IT pros.

keatron

garv221 wrote:

I can see the lower level of server support going off shore. Nothing wrong with that, like the article says, it will free up more time for the IT staff. Its very similiar to me buying 24x7 Cisco smartnet with a tech replacing failed hardware or buying the 24x7 Dell replacement parts with a tech. If a server is having problems, just make a phone call and small aspect of IT is handled by an outsourced company. Companys will always need someone onsite because no one can do a better job than someone who knows the systems and is physically in the server room.

keatron- How are things in Chicago these days? My G/F almost talked me into a trip out there a few weekends ago. She wanted to go shopping.

Things are good here. Shopping here is not overly expensive when you compare it to NYC and LA. The most popular shopping area for out of towners is the Magnificent Mile (or Mighican Ave). I live on Michigan so my better half always shops there. Hard to wiggle out of it when you live in the middle of it If you ever do get here, make sure you visit Nike Town. And if you like to stare in amazement at extremely expensive jewelry, go into Tiffany's & Co.

12thlevelwarrior

yeah, not to worried, most of my job now is really not system administration but implementing new technology and driving new projects.

bighornsheep

I dont think there's anything to worry about for now.....if there's one thing anyone is sure about is that nothing is perfect, and we all know that if things can go wrong, IT WILL....

hehe....