When will Microsoft start doing the mcsa/mcse 2007

davtharavdavtharav Member Posts: 4 ■□□□□□□□□□
If server 2007 is supposed to come out next year when will MSFT discontinue the 2003 exams and start pitchin the 2007 exams?

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  • Ricka182Ricka182 Member Posts: 3,359
    Seeing they haven't killed the 2000 track yet, I don't think 2003 will see it's doom any time soon......
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  • !30!30 Member Posts: 356
    Do you refer at Windows Server "Longhorn icon_lol.gif

    You know some certification will never ( or in this near future ) disapear , coz there be some network's using 2000 server or 2003 for a long time after 2007 version apeaer.So .. :D
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  • eurotrasheurotrash Member Posts: 817
    There will never be any MCSA/MCSE 2007 exams. The 2003 version is the last. See here for more info.
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  • SlowhandSlowhand Mod Posts: 5,161 Mod
    The new path is going to be Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist (MCTS), Microsoft Certified Information Technology Professional (MCITP), and the Microsoft Certified Architect (MCA).

    The MCTS is going to be the MCSA equivalent. The MCITP is along the bredth of MCSE, and the MCA is, supposedly, supposed to be at the same level, network-admin wise, as the CCIE. How it all turns out, we have yet to see.

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  • rockstar81rockstar81 Member Posts: 151
    from my understand the people who are currently MCSA or MCSE will have an option to do an upgrade exam to MCITP for there chosen area for example... MCITP Systems Adminsitrator (equal to the old mcsa) MCITP Systems Engineer (equal to the old mcse). THis is how I have understood it all anyway. I have noticed the MCITP Database admin cert is avaible and its this I have built my logic on in explaining the above, please correct me if I am wrong.
  • eurotrasheurotrash Member Posts: 817
    Yup. As MS says,
    MCSE, MCSA, or MCDST? You do not need to do anything at this point. When Microsoft releases the next version of the Microsoft Windows client and server products, the new credentials will follow the new structure with a Technology and Professional series. MCSEs, MCSAs, and MCDSTs will be offered an upgrade path to the new credentials.
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  • Ricka182Ricka182 Member Posts: 3,359
    Hmmmm...MCA will cost around 10,000.....I don't see that anytime soon, or probably ever.....I think this may, just may weed out some of the jackasses who truly don't belong in IT, but take away jobs from people who do.....but still, probably not.....
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  • tendstends Member Posts: 1 ■□□□□□□□□□
    Microsoft Certified IT Professional (MCITP) and Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist (MCTS) seem to be part of the range of certifications. The foll certifications will be out soon:
    (a) MCTS: Microsoft Exchange 2007 Server Configuration
    70-236: Exchange 2007 Server Configuration (26 Feb)

    (b) MCITP: Enterprise Messaging Administrator
    70-237: Designing Messaging Solutions with Exchange 2007 Server (May 14) and 70-238: Deploying Messaging Solutions with Exchange 2007 (June 2icon_cool.gif. Forgive me, the names and codes may not be correct.
  • nelnel Member Posts: 2,859 ■□□□□□□□□□
    so could someone clarify this for me? the current breed of mcsa/mcse will be given an upgrade path to its equivelant in the new batch of certs? so if your an mcse 2k3 then it will (possibly) take the 2 exams to get you to the 2008 certs like it does from 2000 to 2003?

    i just want abit clarification because im going for the mcse in 2k3 but if i had to take loads more exams to go up the next level i would have to rethink maybe?

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  • royalroyal Member Posts: 3,352 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Read the MCP site. It fully clarifies what the current intended plan is. Nobody should be posting upgrade plans on these forums as these forums are for public viewing. Microsoft posted the current beta details about what the current upgrade process will look like privately on their MCP site which requires a log in for a reason. So again, go read the MCP site for clarification.
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  • NinjaBoyNinjaBoy Member Posts: 968
    There is a similar thread here, anyway here's the info that I posted :)

    Windows Server 2007 will now be Windows Server 2008, the MCSE/MCSA track will only go up to Windows Server 2003 R2 (plus what ever service packs they release. These are the new equivalents (give or take):

    Old -> New -> Upgrade Exam
    MCSE 2k3 -> MCITP Enterprise Administrator -> 71-649 or the 70-649 (71 means beta, 70 means standard/normal exam)
    MCSA 2k3 -> MCITP Server Administrator -> 71-648 or the 70-648 (71 means beta, 70 means standard/normal exam)
    Microsoft wrote:
    Upgrading credentials
    There will be an upgrade path for customers who hold an MCSA or MCSE in Windows Server 2003. There will not be a separate upgrade path for customers who hold a Messaging or Security specialization in Windows Server 2003.

    • MCSA on Windows Server 2003 can upgrade to two MCTS certifications (Active Directory and Networking) with one exam.

    • MCSE on Windows Server 2003 can upgrade to all three MCTS certifications with one exam.

    The beta exams will be release this year, the final exams (I believe) will be release by the end of the year.

    There is no rush to finish the MCSE 2k3 track as MS are only finishing the 2k track next year, so don't worry. And from a business point of view, not everyone will be rushing to upgrade their server to 2k8 just yet. Win 2k3 still has alot of life left in it.

    Hope this helps

    -Ken
  • royalroyal Member Posts: 3,352 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Ninjaboy, I'm pretty sure confidential postings by Microsoft on internal member sites should not be posted on public forums. If Microsoft has officially announced it to everyone and not MCP members, then can you provide a link to where we can see it publicly announced? Thanks!
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  • bertiebbertieb Member Posts: 1,031 ■■■■■■□□□□
    New to this board, so hi all :D

    Microsoft posted some upgrade information from 2003 to 2008 on the 1st June, available here:

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcsa/windowsserver2008/default.mspx

    and

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcse/windowsserver2008/default.mspx

    I guess full details will be announced on the webcast on the 13th June.
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  • NinjaBoyNinjaBoy Member Posts: 968
    royal wrote:
    Ninjaboy, I'm pretty sure confidential postings by Microsoft on internal member sites should not be posted on public forums. If Microsoft has officially announced it to everyone and not MCP members, then can you provide a link to where we can see it publicly announced? Thanks!

    The info that I posted was not from a secure site! It was was Microsoft Communications. See here: http://blogs.msdn.com/trika/archive/2007/05/18/ws2003-ws2008-betas-at-teched-orlando.aspx (and that's just one of the web addresses) and it was released on the 18th of May. If you actually check out Trika's blogs regularly you will normally get info alot faster then on the MCP secure site.

    -ken
  • royalroyal Member Posts: 3,352 ■■■■□□□□□□
    My bad. I was having a bad day when I posted, sorry about sounding rude if that's how it came across.
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  • NinjaBoyNinjaBoy Member Posts: 968
    royal wrote:
    My bad. I was having a bad day when I posted, sorry about sounding rude if that's how it came across.

    That's ok, I could have posted a little less agressive, I was having a bad morning when I posted my answer too. Printer server went down, test server crashed - just didn't want to be in icon_cry.gif

    -Ken
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