A couple very simple questions

Netstudent

I have a question about some of the practice questions on CCNA prep center

Which Cisco IOS command is used to activate the interface Ethernet 1/1?


A. interface ethernet 1/1
enable

B. interface ethernet 1 1
no shutdown

C. interface ethernet 1/1

D. interface ethernet 1/1
admin up


E. interface ethernet 1 1
activate

It shows the correct answer as B

how in the heck can you get into interface configuration mode by using Ethernet 1 1
I haven't read or seen that anywhere. Thats preposterous!!

Heres another one:

In frame-relay, what is the purpose of DLCIs?
To determine the CIR.
To uniquely identify virtual circuits.
To provide frame-relay error recovery.
To provide bandwidth aggregation across multiple links.
To allow multiplexing of virtual connections over a single frame-relay connection

On this one I chose option 2 but they said that was wrong and it should be option 5. Now both of those answers seem pretty damn right to me. Is the CCNA exam going to be this ambiguous?? I know that you have to pay close attention to wording and small details, BUT COME ON! I'm all about precision! I'm starting to question the validity of all these sample test questions out there on the internet. GRR! Can anyone provide justification for this single answer?

Stotic

The first question appears to be a typo.

The second question, option 5 would be correct. While option 2 is correct, option 5 is the better and more specific answer.

Mishra

Welcome to the certification world.

Netstudent

So the lesson here is that When there are two answers that are logically correct, choose the more detailed and wordy answer? To me, that just sounds like a trap waiting to happen. I don't understand how purposely confusing people and being ambiguous is going to adequately test someone's knowledge of the material. Ya I can understand putting answer choices that, at first, seem right, but really arn't. I stayed up too late studying last night so I'm cranky. Maybe I shouldn't get all worked up about a silly ass practice question.

mishra, Where did you get your CNS degree? I got mine from ITT. Still working on my BS in Data Com. though

netx_techex

I started learning for the CCNA exam two weeks ago. So there is a lot of stuff that I do not know. But I'm pretty sure about the answer to your first question. All ports on a Router or Switch are automatically in shutdown mode. You need to use the "no shutdown" command to enable these ports. Interface Ethernet 1/1 means: module one / port one // int eth 0/2 would be: module zero / port two.

Frame-relay isn't yet my domain so will let others decide about that question.

Netstudent

netx_techex wrote:

I started learning for the CCNA exam two weeks ago. So there is a lot of stuff that I do not know. But I'm pretty sure about the answer to your first question. All ports on a Router or Switch are automatically in shutdown mode. You need to use the "no shutdown" command to enable these ports. Interface Ethernet 1/1 means: module one / port one // int eth 0/2 would be: module zero / port two.

Frame-relay isn't yet my domain so will let others decide about that question.

Well ya i know that, but it should be 1/1 not 1 1

royal

The first question is indeed B. The no shutdown command basically allows you to keep the interface alive even if the other side it is connected to is either disabled or not connected.

Netstudent

royal wrote:

The first question is indeed B. The no shutdown command basically allows you to keep the interface alive even if the other side it is connected to is either disabled or not connected.

Ya, but how are you even going to get into Interface config mode by typing... Int Ethernet 1 1
The question didn't say anything about the other side of the link.

netx_techex

OK, I see - typo

royal

Netstudent wrote:

royal wrote:

The first question is indeed B. The no shutdown command basically allows you to keep the interface alive even if the other side it is connected to is either disabled or not connected.

Ya, but how are you even going to get into Interface config mode by typing... Int Ethernet 1 1
The question didn't say anything about the other side of the link.

Ya, I'm probably wrong. I just got excited since I did some Cisco stuff back in college and I remember the no shutdown command as keeping an interface alive.

Netstudent

Ok I just wanted to make sure. thanks all

Mishra

Netstudent wrote:

So the lesson here is that When there are two answers that are logically correct, choose the more detailed and wordy answer? To me, that just sounds like a trap waiting to happen. I don't understand how purposely confusing people and being ambiguous is going to adequately test someone's knowledge of the material. Ya I can understand putting answer choices that, at first, seem right, but really arn't. I stayed up too late studying last night so I'm cranky. Maybe I shouldn't get all worked up about a silly ass practice question.

mishra, Where did you get your CNS degree? I got mine from ITT. Still working on my BS in Data Com. though

I got my associates from ITT. I didn't go for my bachelors because ITT didn't offer the data communications degree. I didn't want to deal with their security degree, which was the only thing the Louisville branch offered.


I get plenty frustrated with Microsoft practice test answers... But you just really have to look into why they want you to learn the other way. Don't choose the answer that is best detailed, just choose the answer that the certification exams are looking for you to know. It sucks that way but thats how you get the certification. Reading, studying, and labs are for truely knowing the product... The certification exam is not testing you on truely knowing the product IMO, it is to try and make sure your mind is thinking CISCO, or MICROSOFT.

Like I know that in Microsoft exams, writing a script IS NEVER the best way to do things unless forced to (like scanstate/loadstate). So any question that asks to write a script is always, to Microsoft, "not the best way to get to the solution". Even though I know it is actually the best way.

Netstudent

okay I'll keep that in mind...Thanks

Ciscopimpenator

Isn't the 2nd question B? I thought you were right on that one.

And what is a Frame-Relay connection? I've heard of PVC's and SVC's and virtual circuits, but what is a Frame-Relay connection? That correct answer seemed more ambiguous.

Good luck to you!

Oh and as far as the CCNA prep center quiz....those questions are really really wrong or ambiguous. Some of them are good, but I can post a few more that seem incorrect.

Try this one...

22. For which reason does a network administrator use ISL?

to maintain redundant links
to allow clients to see the ISL header
to provide inter-VLAN communications over a bridge
to provide trunking between Cisco switches and other vendor’s switches


I didn't think any of the answers were right....there are more too...


hahaha

Ciscopimpenator

Another CCNA prep center screwup...

40. How does a balanced hybrid routing protocol differ from a distance vector routing protocol?

It uses link-state metrics.
It uses triggered updates.
It converges more slowly.
It only uses periodic updates.

The answer is B, triggered updates. Doesn't RIP use triggered updates? As far as I know RIP is a distance vector protocol. WTF?

hahahaha

Good luck....just use the questions to guide you. The CCNA prep center questions are more difficult then the exam. The best questions are the flash card ones I think.

Netstudent

Thanks for your input Pimpen, that actually makes me feel much better. I did notice all those examples you listed as ambiguous. I just didn't want to bring them all up and sound anymore bitchy than I already did. That sucks that cisco's own website isn't 100% credible. They obviously don't have wendell or lammle administering their website. I'm beginning to wonder if I am overestimating the CCNA like I did the Net+. But if I am thats good, at least I'll be prepared.

Ciscopimpenator

The CCNA Prep Center has good questions...just not the ICND link....

http://forums.cisco.com/eforum/servlet/PrepCenter?page=practice_questions

These questions are similar to the real exam and seem correct.

Those other questions which I posted come from the ICND link.

You can never be to prepared is something I learned...

Good luck!

tech-airman

Netstudent wrote:

I have a question about some of the practice questions on CCNA prep center

Which Cisco IOS command is used to activate the interface Ethernet 1/1?


A. interface ethernet 1/1
enable

B. interface ethernet 1 1
no shutdown

C. interface ethernet 1/1

D. interface ethernet 1/1
admin up


E. interface ethernet 1 1
activate

It shows the correct answer as B

how in the heck can you get into interface configuration mode by using Ethernet 1 1
I haven't read or seen that anywhere. Thats preposterous!!

Netstudent,

Here's what my Cisco 2621 router with IOS version said....

>enable
Password:
#config t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
(config)#int fa0/0
(config-if)#enable
                      ^
% Invalid input detected at '^' marker.

(config-if)#enable ?
% Unrecognized command
(config-if)#activate ?
% Unrecognized command
(config-if)#admin ?
% Unrecognized command
(config-if)#no ?
  access-expression       Build a bridge boolean access expression
  arp                     Set arp type (arpa, probe, snap) or timeout
  backup                  Modify backup parameters
  bandwidth               Set bandwidth informational parameter
  bridge-group            Transparent bridging interface parameters
  carrier-delay           Specify delay for interface transitions
  cdp                     CDP interface subcommands
  cmns                    OSI CMNS
  custom-queue-list       Assign a custom queue list to an interface
  delay                   Specify interface throughput delay
  description             Interface specific description
  duplex                  Configure duplex operation.
  fair-queue              Enable Fair Queuing on an Interface
  full-duplex             Configure full-duplex operational mode
  half-duplex             Configure half-duplex and related commands
  hold-queue              Set hold queue depth
  ip                      Interface Internet Protocol config commands
  keepalive               Enable keepalive
  line-power              Provide power on the line.
  llc2                    LLC2 Interface Subcommands
  load-interval           Specify interval for load calculation for an
                          interface
  logging                 Configure logging for interface
  loopback                Configure internal loopback on an interface
  mac-address             Manually set interface MAC address
  max-reserved-bandwidth  Maximum Reservable Bandwidth on an Interface
  media-type              Interface media type
  mtu                     Set the interface Maximum Transmission Unit (MTU)
  multilink-group         Put interface in a multilink bundle
  netbios                 Use a defined NETBIOS access list or enable
                          name-caching
  network-clock-priority  Configure clock source priority
  ntp                     Configure NTP
  priority-group          Assign a priority group to an interface
  random-detect           Enable Weighted Random Early Detection (WRED) on an
                          Interface
  rate-limit              Rate Limit
  service-policy          Configure QoS Service Policy
  shutdown                Shutdown the selected interface
  snapshot                Configure snapshot support on the interface
  snmp                    Modify SNMP interface parameters
  speed                   Configure speed operation.
  standby                 HSRP interface configuration commands
  timeout                 Define timeout values for this interface
  traffic-shape           Enable Traffic Shaping on an Interface or
                          Sub-Interface
  transmit-interface      Assign a transmit interface to a receive-only
                          interface
  trunk-group             Configure interface to be in a trunk group
  tx-ring-limit           Configure PA level transmit ring limit

(config-if)#no shutdown
(config-if)#exit
(config)#exit
#
1y25w: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from console by console
#

So based on the above actual IOS output, you found that A), C), and D) cannot be correct which by the process of elimination, even with the typo, would be the BEST answer in the world of test question writing.