NETWORK+ CERTIFICATION: CONCEPTS FROM TEST

supergeekGuy

Hello Everyone:

This if my first post here, so let me say Hello! I've got a few questions for you all. My students have come back after taking the most recent Network+ exam with horror stories about questions pertaining to VLAN's, KERBEROS UNIX, NetWare and Connectivity Light scenarios!

They have all been trained in the basics, like how VLAN's can break-up broadcast domains, or like how Kerberos is an authentication protocol which also issues tickets/keys when users login to domain!

I was wondering if you all could help me here! What all do you know on these topics, including the NetWare things and/or Connectivity Lights issues?

Plantwiz

The exam follows whatever is on the Objectives. So, I'd recommend reviewing that list to check the wording on the topics.

Next, what text book are books are you using? Sybex and Meyers tend to cover everything very well. If you are using something different, which book and I suppose then I'll ask why?

Prior to the exam, what sort of experience do these candidates have? Perhaps they understand the material only in 1 dimension and when a question is presented to them based on hands-on knowledge as well as definitions....maybe this is throwing them?

Perhaps you could help the members out with how you are presenting the material?? NET+ shouldn't be too much of a surprise as it tends to follow the objectives as well as any CompTIA exam.

matradley

I would like to add on if I could. I would have a look at the objectives - http://certification.comptia.org/resources/objectives.aspx (sign-up and download) - and determine what needs to be covered. I found, with the Network+, there is a wide range of material being covered. Though most of the material, regarding servers, is relatively light, the candidate must be able to have an understanding of how these following servers work:

- Windows Server 2003/2000;
- UNIX/Linux based;
- Apple OS-X/9 Servers; and
- NetWare 2x - 6.5x (the 2,3,4, and 5 are for historical purposes as in they must know the difference between then in regards to binding and BINDERY vs NDS/e-Directory).

I know this is a bit much but it is a vendor neutral certification. Also, it is good to have the candidates understand how subnetting works. I had several subnetting questions on my exam.

I hope this helps.

BPM_33

I took the Network+ test last week & passed.

The questions you're asking about seem standard. For a NIC the students have to know about the link & activity lights & what they mean when they're on/off & blinking periodically.

They should know the basics of Netware including when they switched from IPX/SPX to TCP/IP, Bindery vs. NDS/eDirectory & when.

Some basic Unix tools (TCP/IP utilities, rlogin, etc...)

Seems to me that they didn't follow the objectives closely enough.

elegua

BPM_33 wrote:

I took the Network+ test last week & passed.

They should know the basics of Netware including when they switched from IPX/SPX to TCP/IP

I'm studing for my net+ cert and i don't see anywhere in the objectives anything about Netware switch from IPX/SPX to TCP/IP ???, What do you mean with this??.

I'll realy appreciate if you explain this to me.

mgmguy1

elegua wrote:

BPM_33 wrote:

I took the Network+ test last week & passed.

They should know the basics of Netware including when they switched from IPX/SPX to TCP/IP

I'm studing for my net+ cert and i don't see anywhere in the objectives anything about Netware switch from IPX/SPX to TCP/IP ???, What do you mean with this??.

I'll realy appreciate if you explain this to me.

FYI if you have the 2005 objectives. It says right there on page 7, In Domain 3.0 Network Implemention.

Domain 3.0 Network Implementation – 25%
3.1 Identify the basic capabilities (For example: client support, interoperability, authentication, file and print services, application support and security) of the following server operating systems to access network
resources:
• UNIX / Linux / Mac OS X Server
• Netware
• Windows
• Appleshare IP (Internet Protocol)


Novell Stuff is in Tech notes Tech notes. http://www.techexams.net/technotes/networkplus/netwareipx.shtml

You can also go here to get an overview of Novell Netware and GroupWise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novell

The 2005 Objectives print out should be your students bible. If they are failing ???
It's becasue they have not taken the time to really go over the objectives or the book you are useing is very dated !!

matradley

mgmguy1 wrote:

elegua wrote:

BPM_33 wrote:

I took the Network+ test last week & passed.

They should know the basics of Netware including when they switched from IPX/SPX to TCP/IP

I'm studing for my net+ cert and i don't see anywhere in the objectives anything about Netware switch from IPX/SPX to TCP/IP ???, What do you mean with this??.

I'll realy appreciate if you explain this to me.

FYI if you have the 2005 objectives. It says right there on page 7, In Domain 3.0 Network Implemention.

Domain 3.0 Network Implementation – 25%
3.1 Identify the basic capabilities (For example: client support, interoperability, authentication, file and print services, application support and security) of the following server operating systems to access network
resources:
• UNIX / Linux / Mac OS X Server
• Netware
• Windows
• Appleshare IP (Internet Protocol)


Novell Stuff is in Tech notes Tech notes. http://www.techexams.net/technotes/networkplus/netwareipx.shtml

You can also go here to get an overview of Novell Netware and GroupWise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novell

The 2005 Objectives print out should be your students bible. If they are failing ???
It's becasue they have not taken the time to really go over the objectives or the book you are useing is very dated !!

+1
Don't forget that CompTIA has updated some of their questions to the "2007 version."

elegua

mgmguy1 wrote:

elegua wrote:

BPM_33 wrote:

I took the Network+ test last week & passed.

They should know the basics of Netware including when they switched from IPX/SPX to TCP/IP

I'm studing for my net+ cert and i don't see anywhere in the objectives anything about Netware switch from IPX/SPX to TCP/IP ???, What do you mean with this??.

I'll realy appreciate if you explain this to me.

FYI if you have the 2005 objectives. It says right there on page 7, In Domain 3.0 Network Implemention.

Domain 3.0 Network Implementation – 25%
3.1 Identify the basic capabilities (For example: client support, interoperability, authentication, file and print services, application support and security) of the following server operating systems to access network
resources:
• UNIX / Linux / Mac OS X Server
• Netware
• Windows
• Appleshare IP (Internet Protocol)


Novell Stuff is in Tech notes Tech notes. http://www.techexams.net/technotes/networkplus/netwareipx.shtml

You can also go here to get an overview of Novell Netware and GroupWise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novell

The 2005 Objectives print out should be your students bible. If they are failing ???
It's becasue they have not taken the time to really go over the objectives or the book you are useing is very dated !!

Hi,

Thanks for your post, very helpful but nothing answer me about switched from IPX/SPX to TCP/IP. i read sybex and couple of books but nothing about this, switched from IPX/SPX to TCP/IP ???

What does this mean???

redgren

elegua wrote:

Hi,

Thanks for your post, very helpful but nothing answer me about switched from IPX/SPX to TCP/IP. i read sybex and couple of books but nothing about this, switched from IPX/SPX to TCP/IP ???

What does this mean???

Early versions of Novell Netware used IPX/SPX as their networking protocol. In version 5.x of NetWare it runs TCP/IP natively. IPX/SPX was a proprietary Novell protocol, and while it had its benefits, to communicate on the internet one needed to use TCP/IP. Versions 5.x and 6.x of NetWare use TCP/IP but have IPX/SPX for backwards compatibility.

supergeekhandGuy

Hello Everyone:

Here is what I have gathered about NetWare over the past few years! Am I missing anything?

NETWARE
Novell NetWare started with the BINDERY (database) but moved to NDS (Novell Distributed Database) in version 4.11. They first supported IPX/SPX, but later moved to TCP/IP in version 5.0 and later.
•Novell Netware versions 1 through 4.11 used IPX/SPX
•Novell Netware versions 5 and up now use TCP/IP
•Novell Netware versions 1 through 4.11 used BINDERY (database of users, objects)
•Novell Netware version 5 (and up) started using NDS-Novell Distributed Database)

•If the Novell server is running IPX/SPX, then you must install NWLink on Windows clients
•You must install CSNW (Client Services for NetWare) on Microsoft clients (NT, 2000) to help them connect to a Novell NetWare Server
Note: If you install CSNW on a Microsoft client, then it will automatically add NWLink also

•With Windows XP, you can install Client32 software on XP clients instead
•You must install FPNW (File and Print Services for NetWare) on Novell clients for them to talk to a Windows Server!
•NFS (NetWare File System): So netware can pretend to be a Windows system
•NDS (Novell Directory Service – similar to Active Directory in Windows)
•NSS (Novell Storage Services): NetWare’s file systems
•NDPS (Novell’s Distributed Print Service): Printing service.
•Administrator Account: SUPERVISOR
•Novell NetWare has great utilities like: Console One (create users, groups), and NWAdmin (administer users and groups and printers), which both help manage the NDS tree!
•Later, NetWare came out with NFA (Native File Access), which made the NETWARE Server look like Window, MAC or Linux client (fooled them). Instead of putting software on your clients (like CSNW, FPNW, etc…) now we have software on Server.
•Note: When Novell used IPX, there was no DNS or WINS; In Windows and Unix world, we have DNS. NDS servers broadcast using SAP (Service Addressing Protocol); and with routed networks this is a problem since routers disrupt broadcasts).

elegua

supergeekhandGuy wrote:

Hello Everyone:

Here is what I have gathered about NetWare over the past few years! Am I missing anything?

NETWARE
Novell NetWare started with the BINDERY (database) but moved to NDS (Novell Distributed Database) in version 4.11. They first supported IPX/SPX, but later moved to TCP/IP in version 5.0 and later.
•Novell Netware versions 1 through 4.11 used IPX/SPX
•Novell Netware versions 5 and up now use TCP/IP
•Novell Netware versions 1 through 4.11 used BINDERY (database of users, objects)
•Novell Netware version 5 (and up) started using NDS-Novell Distributed Database)

•If the Novell server is running IPX/SPX, then you must install NWLink on Windows clients
•You must install CSNW (Client Services for NetWare) on Microsoft clients (NT, 2000) to help them connect to a Novell NetWare Server
Note: If you install CSNW on a Microsoft client, then it will automatically add NWLink also

•With Windows XP, you can install Client32 software on XP clients instead
•You must install FPNW (File and Print Services for NetWare) on Novell clients for them to talk to a Windows Server!
•NFS (NetWare File System): So netware can pretend to be a Windows system
•NDS (Novell Directory Service – similar to Active Directory in Windows)
•NSS (Novell Storage Services): NetWare’s file systems
•NDPS (Novell’s Distributed Print Service): Printing service.
•Administrator Account: SUPERVISOR
•Novell NetWare has great utilities like: Console One (create users, groups), and NWAdmin (administer users and groups and printers), which both help manage the NDS tree!
•Later, NetWare came out with NFA (Native File Access), which made the NETWARE Server look like Window, MAC or Linux client (fooled them). Instead of putting software on your clients (like CSNW, FPNW, etc…) now we have software on Server.
•Note: When Novell used IPX, there was no DNS or WINS; In Windows and Unix world, we have DNS. NDS servers broadcast using SAP (Service Addressing Protocol); and with routed networks this is a problem since routers disrupt broadcasts).

Hi.

NDS was introduced in version 4 not at version 5.

NetWare 4.x

Version 4 in 1993 also introduced the Novell Directory Services (NDS), based on X.500, which replaced the Bindery with a global directory service, in which the infrastructure was described and managed in a single place. Additionally, NDS provided an extensible schema, allowing the introduction of new object types. This allowed a single user authentication to NDS to govern access to any server in the directory tree structure. Users could therefore access network resources no matter on which server they resided, although user license counts were still tied to individual servers.

Here The link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Novell_NetWare#NetWare_4.x

Hope this help.

HemisFear

Heya folks.

I just took (and failed) the exam and am a 7 year pro in the IT world. For me, I was shocked at the number of Mac, Novell, Unix questions that were ask. I got absolutely no diagram questions and the gimme's such as "What port does FTP use" were a grand total of ONE.

While I certainly don't think this is an advanced exam at all, I do think people need to take ALL of the subjects pretty seriously because they cover the bases well.