WoW....

Makes me just want to punch people some times....
Co-worker and I are supposed to be taking our CCNA exams soon.

I am fairly sure he hasn't been studying so much but he said he still wanted to take the exam.
I asked him about it and he said he was 95% sure he would pass it.
So I proceed to ask him about it and he finally let the name "Test__ng slip...
PUNCH! Effer!

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dtlokee

Yes, but what happens when the job requires him to put his new found skills to work?

ITdude

That is pretty pathetic. At least you will know what you are talking about. Don't worry the real world will filter people like that out pretty quickly.

Cessation

ITdude wrote:

That is pretty pathetic. At least you will know what you are talking about. Don't worry the real world will filter people like that out pretty quickly.

Ha, Already has... He also used it to get his MCSE2000 and still works 1st level Help desk taking calls.

It still bothers me though...

snadam

Karma is a BxxxH!!!

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networker050184

That is what technical interviews are for. He would probably fall apart pretty quick if asked to explain some of the technologies.

Pash

Cessation wrote:

Makes me just want to punch people some times....
Co-worker and I are supposed to be taking our CCNA exams soon.

I am fairly sure he hasn't been studying so much but he said he still wanted to take the exam.
I asked him about it and he said he was 95% sure he would pass it.
So I proceed to ask him about it and he finally let the name "Test__ng slip...
PUNCH! Effer!

Don't even get angry about it and ignore it. You will know that you have studied hard for the exam, you will know your skill set and strong areas, thats all that matters.

Paul Boz

If you want to be truly happy in life don't let others bother you. It's frustrating when people do things you don't agree with but if you can find peace and happiness with yourself it shouldn't bother you. I'd pity him before I'd hate him.

mikej412

networker050184 wrote:

That is what technical interviews are for.

I like to think of technical interviews as a demonstration of Natural Selection at work. The weak, clueless, and cheaters are culled from the Techie Herd.

Technowiz

Let us know how the test goes. I doubt that he will pass. He may get more of the multiple choice right but how do you **** a simulator? The advantage of Cisco exams is they require you to use your knowledge to pass. That is how they have maintained the value and respectability of their certifications. Chances are, your friend is in for a rude awakening.

ilcram19

there is people out there that dont really like challenge, there is been always **** code for everything, video games, test, etc.
but one thing u cant really **** trough is life, if you work hard for what u want u always gonna get it if not ill be working at the help desk with him, everything pay off.
i meet a **** that used some kind of stuff like dat to get CCNP but he didnt know what SNMP was or what was a SNMP trap...i mean network+ stuff u know....but anyways
keep the hard studying up!!!!

ilcram19

by the way i meant guy no **** lol

mikearama

Just to add fuel to the fire...

I have to disagree that because someone has dumped an exam, they're useless at the real thing.

Don't get me wrong... they're a cheater, plain and simple. But for every bonehead (like the one ilcram mentioned), there's another cisco admin who knows his/her stuff, but dumped the exam... perhaps as a final 'readiness' check.

I don't mind admitting I dumped my MCSE 2000 (my college provided them, though at the time I didn't know what a **** was). It made passing 11 of 12 MCP's possible on the first try. The real learning came on the job, though.

@ Cessation... your bud sounds like he's dumping, and nothing else. No hands on, no sims, nothing realistic. THAT'll bite him in the butt.

Okay, flame on!

ITdude

Maybe we should coin a new term...Darwinian Netwoking!

Netstudent

survival of the smartest!

dtlokee

I think part of the problem comes from the fact most people in the industry see it like this:

1 - the things you need to know to get the job done
2 - the things you need to know to pass the exam

Somehow people don't see there is a connection between the two. This lends itself to people justifying the use of **** to gain the second part. I understand the idea behind this having taken many exams and comming across questions and thinking to myself how they have no relevance to the job, or they pulled some obscure fact out of a whitepaper that no one would usually know.

The bottom line is the exams are not designed to be soley based on what you do in your day to day job duties. They want you to study for the exams, they want you to take classes (official curriculum of course!) They don't want you to be able to pass from on the job experience.

mgeorge

dtlokee wrote:

I think part of the problem comes from the fact most people in the industry see it like this:

1 - the things you need to know to get the job done
2 - the things you need to know to pass the exam

Somehow people don't see there is a connection between the two. This lends itself to people justifying the use of **** to gain the second part. I understand the idea behind this having taken many exams and comming across questions and thinking to myself how they have no relevance to the job, or they pulled some obscure fact out of a whitepaper that no one would usually know.

The bottom line is the exams are not designed to be soley based on what you do in your day to day job duties. They want you to study for the exams, they want you to take classes (official curriculum of course!) They don't want you to be able to pass from on the job experience.

I totally agree with ya dklokee!! Using a **** is the easy way out if you need to pass an exam in a hurry. Their are tons of topics that you are tested on and you NEVER use in the field, especially the CCDA exam for example, If you apply real world knowledge to the exam YOU WILL FAIL!! Simple as that, basically you have to know the wendell odem book inside out.

Not that I promote the use of ****, because I dont. Clearly if you know the material you'll pass the exam, but I will admit that some of these exams are just plain propostorous.

If I remember correctly, one of the best know CCIE's "Jeremy Cioara" once said that being CCIE dosent mean you know everything, it means you can find out anything!!

JohnDouglas

what does WoW mean?

many of the people at work are using a braindump site, not the one mentioned above though. they're working hard though, reading and reading and reading, taking notes, reading more, doing sims etc. but then topping it all off with a braindump. i guess all the practice questions will help people realise areas they don't know and need to study up on. not the best though i agree.

for school exams though everyone uses past papers don't they to practice. but from what i understand the braindump sites contain "live" questions.

anyway, time to sleep, more study in the morning!