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just Passed CCNA

momen46momen46 Banned Posts: 12 ■□□□□□□□□□
Hi every one
i just passed ccna exam and i wanna go 4 CCVP
but somepeople told me that i shouldn't go 4 ccvp untill i know enough about voip
and they recomended ccnp first
would u help me about that plz?can i go for ccv directly or it would be hard 4 me?

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    DSPDSP Member Posts: 11 ■□□□□□□□□□
    I say go for it. If you were planning on doing both, I would recommend doing the CCNP first. I actually think the CCVP was much easier then the CCNP. I don't think you will have to many problems with it.

    Mike

    p.s. congrats on passing the CCNA. It is a lot harder then any of the CCVP test!
    Mike
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    mikej412mikej412 Member Posts: 10,086 ■■■■■■■■■■
    If you have a telecom background, it will be easy. If you don't, it will be new and strange.

    If you have a job opportunity where you work now, or you have a job opportunity doing voice and they said they'll hire you if you get the CCVP -- then go for it.

    If you're part of a team, you may not need CCNP skills if you are the "CallManager Guy/Gal" or the "plug the phones in at the desk guy/gal." Someday, as you advance in your job, you may want to add the CCNP. Right now the new CCNP exams do cover some basic voice skills and QoS that's useful as an introduction to Voice.

    The Voice exams also have some of the lowest passing scores of all the Cisco exams -- so while they may be "easier to pass" than the CCNA, the knowledge you should possess with a CCVP is much greater.
    :mike: Cisco Certifications -- Collect the Entire Set!
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    sheikhasimsheikhasim Member Posts: 4 ■□□□□□□□□□
    all i wana know if the above statement still applies, im thinking of jumping into ccvp bypassing ccnp and do ccnp later, does the above still apply about ccna being harder than ccvp
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    mikej412mikej412 Member Posts: 10,086 ■■■■■■■■■■
    Yes, still applies.

    The CCNA:Voice replaces the CCNA on June 24, 2009 as the prerequisite for the CCVP.

    If you don't complete the CCVP before that date you must also pass the CCNA:Voice exam to earn the CCVP.

    CCVP - Career Certifications & Paths - Cisco Systems

    And NO, the CCNA is not harder than the CCVP -- it's the opposite. Since you have lots of new topics and concepts to learn and more difficult material to cover than the CCNA, Cisco compensates by requiring lower passing scores.

    Some people assume the low scores means they don't have to study as hard since they don't need to score as high as on the CCNA. Those people get a big surprise when they take the exams.
    :mike: Cisco Certifications -- Collect the Entire Set!
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    CrunchyhippoCrunchyhippo Member Posts: 389
    sheikhasim wrote: »
    all i wana know if the above statement still applies, im thinking of jumping into ccvp bypassing ccnp and do ccnp later, does the above still apply about ccna being harder than ccvp

    It depends on if you have the time to do CCNP. It doesn't HAVE to come before CCVP, but I can see how it would be valuable to have first. With me, I just don't have the time or resources to go after a CCNP first, so I'm going straight from CCNA to CCVP.

    If you want the VP first, then dedication and determination can make up for a lot. And - in my case - having a family which depends on you to put food on the table.
    "Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons." - Popular Mechanics, 1949
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    NOCupNOCup Member Posts: 22 ■□□□□□□□□□
    If you just want to a nice title on your resume, do CCVP first. IMO, it is easier to obtain. If you are already working, this will depend on what your job needs. I work in a NOC that does Cisco Unified Communication support. All us are either working toward CCVP or has it already. No one has CCNP. Most companies seperate voice engineering and network engineering team. So if there is a network issue, we just escalate the issue to customer's network team. I'm just sharing my experience.
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    pitviperpitviper Member Posts: 1,376 ■■■■■■■□□□
    NOCup wrote: »
    If you just want to a nice title on your resume, do CCVP first. IMO, it is easier to obtain.

    How do you figure? It’s now basically 6 tests (w/CCNA:Voice) vs 4 for CCNP. I plan on doing both but jumped on the CCVP first since it’s relevant to my work duties and I already have plenty of experience with routing and switching.

    It really all boils down to A) what you enjoy, and B) employment implications, both current and or future. Of course a little bit of experience goes a long way.
    CCNP:Collaboration, CCNP:R&S, CCNA:S, CCNA:V, CCNA, CCENT
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