passed CVOICE

hendychow

Hi All,

I just passed CVOICE today.
Thanks for this forum and all of you who has given me a guide to study.

I will pursue CIPT for the next exam

What's the difference between CMBA (Call Manager Basic Administration) and CIPT

Is there a certification for CMBA ?

Can I find a job after getting a CCVP ?

Thanks

itdaddy

great job man! awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
you should be proud of yourself; now have a beer and one on me too!

mikej412

Congratulations!

mariusac wrote:

What's the difference between CMBA (Call Manager Basic Administration) and CIPT

Sounds like its a course for someone who may need to do some basic things in CallManager, but not take the CIPT exam. Or it could be the "warmup class" before the official CIPT courses. Or it could just be what they called the class before the new exams.

mariusac wrote:

Can I find a job after getting a CCVP ?

It depends, how good you are?

We recently interviewed 8 CCVPs and they were all worthless. We found an old telecom guy with a CCNA that we may train, and we might send some of the PBX guys to get their CCNA and go from there. I'm assuming all the good CCVPs are working and being overpaid so they don't want to leave for a new job.

hendychow

mikej412 wrote:

Congratulations!

mariusac wrote:

What's the difference between CMBA (Call Manager Basic Administration) and CIPT

Sounds like its a course for someone who may need to do some basic things in CallManager, but not take the CIPT exam. Or it could be the "warmup class" before the official CIPT courses. Or it could just be what they called the class before the new exams.

mariusac wrote:

Can I find a job after getting a CCVP ?

It depends, how good you are?

We recently interviewed 8 CCVPs and they were all worthless. We found an old telecom guy with a CCNA that we may train, and we might send some of the PBX guys to get their CCNA and go from there. I'm assuming all the good CCVPs are working and being overpaid so they don't want to leave for a new job.

Mike,

How do you determine good or bad CCVP guy ?

Are you the senior engineer who decide to hire the engineers ?

What exactly is the job description of Voip engineer ?
Is it more like Call Manager implementation ?

Thanks

mgeorge

Congrats on the pass, I'm thinkin that VoIP will be my next move after CCIE R&S
because VoIP is soon going to take over the world!!!

But I'm still debating rather I should do voice or security next >.<

Crunchyhippo

Great job! One more test under your belt.

So how long did it take you to prepare for the test? Did you have equipment at work to practice on, or was it your own gear?

mikej412

mariusac wrote:

How do you determine good or bad CCVP guy ?

Same way to tell a good CCNA from a bad CCNA -- Technical Interview.

The people who **** or just studied enough to pass the exams to get the CCVP don't seem able to retain the material and answer simple question or perform even the simple tasks form the exam blueprints.

mariusac wrote:

Are you the senior engineer who decide to hire the engineers ?

I'm a contractor -- so I'm always amused when I get dragged into hiring issues.

mariusac wrote:

What exactly is the job description of Voip engineer ?
Is it more like Call Manager implementation ?

Depends on the Company.

The guy doing the Call Manager implementation may be a Microsoft or Linux Guy who maybe studied the CIPT material -- and not an VoIP Engineer at all. Or someone trained to do basic admin for day-to-day tasks in the CallManager software after it was installed and configured by a vendor.

A large Company (or Business Partner) may have a Microsoft Exchange Guy with the 642-104 UCSE Exam (making them a Cisco Unity Support Specialist) doing the Unity Servers. Or a company may just have a plain MCSE:Messaging dealing with the day-to-day issues after the servers were installed by a vendor.

Since titles usually don't cost a company anything -- I've seen "Network Engineers" who did nothing but "call dispatch" to get vendors in to do the work and fix any problems.

Search the job boards and see what employers consider the skills/description for whatever job title you want.

scofugate

It would never hurt to take a look at CLEC's or bigger phone companies, as most are moving from TDM networks to VoIP, or at lease adding to their networks. That is the case with the company I work for anyway. The work there is mostly Cvoice stuff with a mix of QOS.