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RTmarc wrote: You can find far superior products for much less than the price of Cisco devices.
dtlokee wrote: RTmarc wrote: You can find far superior products for much less than the price of Cisco devices. An uninformed statemtent at a minimum, nice to see you've backed it up with examples.
RTmarc wrote: I don't see you overloading us with pro-Cisco information either... Switches: Extreme Networks, HP Procurves, AdTran NetVantas Firewalls/Security Appliances: FortiGate, CheckPoint Routers you are pretty much limited either Juniper or Cisco. I never said Cisco makes bad products but there are better products out there that are cheaper.
Slowhand wrote: RTmarc wrote: I don't see you overloading us with pro-Cisco information either... Switches: Extreme Networks, HP Procurves, AdTran NetVantas Firewalls/Security Appliances: FortiGate, CheckPoint Routers you are pretty much limited either Juniper or Cisco. I never said Cisco makes bad products but there are better products out there that are cheaper. I think the point made was that this forum is filled to the brim with case studies and examples of Cisco products performing extremely well. In this type of environment, where one product is pretty well-established, bringing a new viewpoint, like you did, would need some examples of why you think that. Personally, I've had a few more headaches with other managed switches, like HP ProCurves, Dell PowerConnects, and the like. I've found myself using and recommending Cisco Catalyst switches whenever possible. My reasoning: there's plenty of training/documentation available for Cisco devices, Cisco provides excellent customer support, and Cisco devices tend to be pretty much standards-compliant because. . . well. . . Cisco has had a tremendous hand in helping create those standards to begin with. The question, as always, simply comes down to price. If you're willing and able to invest the money, there's no substitute for the Catalyst switches. Without going too far off-topic, my company uses SonicWall as the firewall of choice. Why SonicWall? Because most of the guys on our staff come from a sys admin background and don't have enough experience to configure a PIX firewall in a production environment. As for routers, you've got some choices out there. Cisco routers are always my first choice, there's little reason not to invest in one. That's not to say I don't like Juniper or Foundry, but it comes back to being standards-compliant and having documentation and support when needed. Now, as for a recommendation for Netstudent. Despite the headaches the HP ProCurves have given me, I've found them to be more reliable than other switches in the same price/performance bracket. The 3500yl-48G-PWR Intelligent Edge might be right up your alley. It's probably going to be in the ballpark of what your company wants to pay, my company's clients have had mostly positive experiences with HP switches, and HP is generally pretty good about giving support (so long as you have a service plan with them).
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