hedhrts wrote: Which CVOICE did you take 642-436 or 642-432? I'm looking at the 2 certification paths and with the new path, it seems you can take either and not have to take the GWGK exam. However CIPT has been devided int 2 exams. Good thing, there is a lot to know there. The 642-432 is listed as also having to take CVFv1.0 for training but I believe this is covered in the exam. If this information is correct, I think you are CIPT bound.http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/le2/le37/le65/learning_certification_type_home.html Good luck on your employment efforts.