salary expectations

certifyme

Hi all, what should i put down for salary expectations for a full time emplyee position (IT analyst). This is one of the question in the email the corp sent me. I don't really have any IT experiences. Should i put down any reasonable offer?

undomiel

Negotiable.

networker050184

I always put what I want to be paid. If you want to be paid $30,000 then put that. No point in going any further in the process if they are not willing to pay you what you want. If you just want a job at any pay rate than like undomiel stated put negotiable.

certifyme

Thanks for the replies.. Yea i just need a job to gain some experiences... so basically any offer is fine with me.

nicklauscombs

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Thanks for the replies.. Yea i just need a job to gain some experiences... so basically any offer is fine with me.

I think in your position with no experience, you'll be somewhat at the company's mercy, however if you can do some investigating and find out what people in similar positions in your area make it could be a good indicator of what you should be offered and possibly provide some leverage.

dan87951

If I was you I would be happy with anything in the $15 an hour range. Good Luck with it. Once you get your experience it only goes up from there. My first job was crappy pay as well. shoot my current job is kinda crappy as well but the experience is definitely going to help build me a nice resume.

blargoe

It's hard to be too picky with salary on your first IT job. Go ahead and try for th $15/hr and see what happens.

garv221

networker050184 wrote:

I always put what I want to be paid. If you want to be paid $30,000 then put that. No point in going any further in the process if they are not willing to pay you what you want. If you just want a job at any pay rate than like undomiel stated put negotiable.

Horrible advice, could be the worst advice to give someone in a job hunt. Never tell anyone what you want to make until there is an offer on the table for obvious reasons.

networker050184

gary221 wrote:

Horrible advice, could be the worst advice to give someone in a job hunt. Never tell anyone what you want to make until there is an offer on the table for obvious reasons.

I disagree. If you are not willing to work for less than a certain amount you should let it be known. No point in carrying on with interviews if you are not going to meet eye to eye or at least in the same ballpark on salary.

I always give a range the first time I talk to a company. If they say they are not willing to pay that much (which has only happened to me twice) I say thank you for your time and move on.

Like I said if you just want a job no matter the pay tell them its negotiable.

dynamik

I wouldn't call that horrible advice because I agree that it's foolish to waste everyone's time, but I think Garv's concern is that you might get stuck with a lower salary than you would have gotten through negotiation.

garv221

networker050184 wrote:

gary221 wrote:

Horrible advice, could be the worst advice to give someone in a job hunt. Never tell anyone what you want to make until there is an offer on the table for obvious reasons.

I disagree. If you are not willing to work for less than a certain amount you should let it be known. No point in carrying on with interviews if you are not going to meet eye to eye or at least in the same ballpark on salary.

I always give a range the first time I talk to a company. If they say they are not willing to pay that much (which has only happened to me twice) I say thank you for your time and move on.

Like I said if you just want a job no matter the pay tell them its negotiable.

Read any article, book on finding and securing a job and it will tell you never to tell the employer what you want to make. It is just foolish, what do you make now by the way? You are taking the negotiating process out of hiring.... If not money you can secure more vacation time or benefits...Crazyness

astorrs

You put "Expected Salary $35,000" down on your application, I'm going to offer you maybe $32,000, if you don't take it I might "up the offer to $35,000"

You don't put down anything I might offer you $32,000 still or I might start out the negotiating at $38,000.

dynamik

astorrs wrote:

You put "Expected Salary $35,000" down on your application, I'm going to offer you maybe $32,000, if you don't take it I might "up the offer to $35,000"

You don't put down anything I might offer you $32,000 still or I might start out the negotiating at $38,000.

What would you do if I asked for one billion dollars!!!

networker050184

I guess I'm more of a straight shooter. I know what I want to make and either they are going to give it to me or not.

I take all of the decision making out of their hands and into mine. If you want them to decide your salary go right ahead, but I like to make the decision on mine

gojericho0

I think it is important to negotiate as well. You always want to bring up money when you know they want you. That way you have the most negotiation power and if they want you bad enough they will offer it. Also if they say they are not will to negotiate on salary try other things, benefits, vacation, personal, 401k...Anything is negotiable

astorrs

True, benefits are important to calculate in.

I would take a job as a Junior Sys Admin with a salary of $40,000 and 3 weeks of vacation over the exact same job paying $45,000 with only 2 weeks. Any one hazard a guess as to why?

seuss_ssues

astorrs wrote:

True, benefits are important to calculate in.

I would take a job as a Junior Sys Admin with a salary of $40,000 and 3 weeks of vacation over the exact same job paying $45,000 with only 2 weeks. Any one hazard a guess as to why?

Your salary will generally grow faster than your amount of vacation. It might take you 2-3 years of work to gain that extra week off, but you might get a 5k raise in 1 year.

drainey

They asked for your expected salary in an email so they're looking for some kind of answer. Don't give a set amount (15/hr) as that narrows it down and limits your negotiating position. Either answer negotiable or put in a range. If you can get an idea of what the position usually brings within the company or local area so much the better. Use that as a basis for your range.

And don't just accept the first offer. Anything is negotiable. Start with salary and if they won't budge then try for more vacation time or a higher match rate for your 401K. Employeers typically low ball the first offer hoping you;ll take it. Just don't get crazy. If they offer 15/hr try for 17/hr (if that's within the range to be expected) and "settle" for 16/hr with an extra 2 days of vacation. Bonus for you. No need to just accept that first offer just because it's your first job, unless they make it apparent they aren't going to budge . After all if it's gotten to salary negotiations you know they want you so get what you can at the start as it's much easier than trying to negotiate a raise later.

vistalavista

networker050184 wrote:

gary221 wrote:

Horrible advice, could be the worst advice to give someone in a job hunt. Never tell anyone what you want to make until there is an offer on the table for obvious reasons.

I disagree. If you are not willing to work for less than a certain amount you should let it be known. No point in carrying on with interviews if you are not going to meet eye to eye or at least in the same ballpark on salary.

I always give a range the first time I talk to a company. If they say they are not willing to pay that much (which has only happened to me twice) I say thank you for your time and move on.

Like I said if you just want a job no matter the pay tell them its negotiable.

I agree with Garv here. I "want" to be paid $300,000/year but I won't get any job paying that much no matter my qualifications. You're going to say that's an extreme example but if I had taken the advice you gave that I've quoted here, I wouldn't have gotten my latest job. The interviewer asked me my expected salary and I told him what I wanted to make. He said they can only pay about 10K below what I asked. I could've called it off right then but I went along in the interview and when it was time to offer me the job, I negotiated and got my expected salary.

learningtofly22

#1 rule of negotiation: The first person to name a number loses.

Sepiraph

Go to salary sites and find the salary range, then go from there.

brad-

Ask on the high side. If they dont give it to you, you can negotiate down. You can't negotiate up once you say a $