confused now on ccna and ccna security

I was one click away to buy new ccna book by Todd. But I wanted to make sure I get the right exam number for ccna, so I went to ccna site.
http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/learning_career_certifications_and_learning_paths_home.html
Under associate for network security, it shows ccna security, it used to show only ccna. Does that mean I have to take ccna security exam to go to ccsp? If I click on ccsp, then prerequisite is ccna security or ccna + snd. So ccna security is a prerequisite for ccsp. If I click on ccna security, then ccna is prerequisite. So, am I supposed to take ccna and ccna security to get ccsp? I can't just take ccna security? I am confused. Can anyone help clarify?
Thank you.

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nicklauscombs

you can't get ccna:security without a regular ccna

networker050184

You must take the CCNA AND the CCNA Security exam before CCSP.

GarudaMin

I see.
upon further reading I also noticed that ccsp will be 4 exams instead of five exams due to ccna security.
so it will be ccna + ccna security + 4 exams instead of ccna + 5 exams
well i can get two titles then if i did ccna security, not too bad i guess, well back to ordering book

laidbackfreak

it used to be ccna ... then snd + the rest of the exams....
going forward it will be ccna... ccna security +the rest

the snd exam is due to retire shortly hence the current cross over of either or situ...

either way its still 6 exams total.....

from talking to others there seems to be a lot of crossover between the snd and new ccna security exam tho....

but the really nice thing about the SP route is you get a nice certificate for each exam passed

CCIEWANNABE

yep, cisco making more money with yet another exam lined up in between ccna and ccsp. they sure are getting wise to this whole cert thing

problem is i am such a fool for certs that i'll probably end up taking it this fall after ccnp. i want a resume with a whole page that lists my certs, that would be cool

astorrs

CCNPWANNABE wrote:

yep, cisco making more money with yet another exam lined up in between ccna and ccsp. they sure are getting wise to this whole cert thing problem is i am such a fool for certs that i'll probably end up taking it this fall after ccnp. i want a resume with a whole page that lists my certs, that would be cool

The CCSP still requires the same number of exams. One of them was just pushed out of the CCSP track and into the CCNA:Sec. It's a wash financially.