WannaBeHacker wrote: »
When I mentioned the CCNA being stupid, what I was referring to was the fact that the test is not hard - it covers the usual: routers, CISCO's IOS, subnetting and such...
It is just that it is made artificially difficult because they do not give you enough time to give much thought to the problem.
For example you are shown 3 routers and given a description of a connection problem. Normally you would look at all router configs involved before answering. In the exam you are not given enough time to do that.
I took the exam and passed it, but compared to Microsoft, Security+ and a bunch of others, you can fail this one not because you don't know the answer, but just because you are careful, just as you should be when messing with a live network.
That was my 1st and last cert w/ CISCO because, in my opinion, they looked like money grabbers rather than trying to raise the standards of practice.
Sorry if I misled you.
kryptos80 wrote: »
Wow, i was thinking about taking the CEH course/exam but after reading this thread, I don't think I will.
I am a CCNP engineer with over 5 years experience. I want to learn more about security and maybe eventually go into the security field so i'm looking for an avenue of studying. Typically i like certifications because they focus my thinking.
I am looking at CCNA security but its REALLY not very helpful. Its just a bunch of aaa/vpn stuff with a concentration on SDM which i never see anyone use.
I am really tempted to go for OSCP. I know it probably won't help my career, but if the knowledge is worth it then why not, right? Thoughts?
Roguetadhg wrote: »
I think this post should probably be read by anyone going for a certification to read through this thread with an open mind. For better or worse.
At some point we've all heard "Certifications aren't as important as experience". Which, is better heard from someone that does interviews and knows something about the technology.
I'd like to think that passing a certification, means you have acquired some experience that will be translated over to the career field. I love the networking field (I'm actively searching for an ISP position). It would be disheartening to find out the time spent, information read and all that time I could've been playing Skyrim (I've killed a single dragon. Once.) has been for nothing. Not to mention the money Im trying to ring up for networking equipment for my own labs
sexion8 wrote: »
You will want to learn some form of programming language at its basic in the future should you want to be an effective security professional. Don't focus on tools as you won't always be in an environment to run certain tools. Suggestion: Perl or Python period. I'll keep any programming zealotry out of this as well.
madmaus wrote: »
I appreciate your "ramblings" and I must say that I respect your point of view. Needless to say, you have stated your point effectively and have given a realistic guideline based on your experience and understanding of the material. For many years, I refused to take certs... mainly because of all the cert *hores which started back for me back when MCSE was the greatest rage back in the 90's if my memory serves me right. It sickened and frustrated me to the point wherein I would not even truly pay attention to your resume' because of it. My thoughts were... Great! You can read and answer questions but can you apply it in the real world? ... most of the time ... they could not.
Don't get me wrong. I don't mind individuals who have the certs, in fact, that is wonderful! ... just as long they have the experience, knowledge and wisdom on how to apply what they have learned.
tolmie wrote: »
Hi guys, some great posts. Ive been working in IT for around 15 year. I was thinking about doing the EH exam to add something a bit different to my CV, I'm not saying I want to be a pen tester as I probably don't have the ability but I find security and hacking interesting. I have access to CBT nuggets, what book would you recommend for studying for the EH course. As I say this is just to add something to my Microsoft certs.
tolmie wrote: »
As I say this is just to add something to my Microsoft certs.