murdatapes wrote: » My department is so funny. Talking with some of the guys at work, with the manager being there, and I had mentioned how certs really helping to get more experience and your foot in the door, and one guy said "well no matter how many certs you get, they will always keep you in this department." For some reason the "server hardware" guys just do the hardware and have no passion about getting out of that department so we keep them there and never ask them to move up (thats the perception). But the guys that deal with the OS side (Unix and Windows, even Networking department) have a board were they post individual certs on the wall showing peoples accomplishments and how great they are. My department? Well there just people who do "something." This is the reason I do what I do to gain as much experience as possible. Do you think after I achieve the MCSE i should try to move up, or try to move out?