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ColbyNA wrote: » I don't see what one thing has to do with the other? Obviously you want logos on yours, so go for it. I don't think anyone is demanding that no one does it. I believe we're saying that we, personally, do not do it and wouldn't recommend it. If it works for Boz, great. I think it's a waste of space and it looks bad, especially when things are redundant like his. The CCDA is a requirement for the DP, and the NA is a requirement for three certs he has, there is no need to list those two, IMO. I am all for redundant certs in words, as you get more keyword hits, but redundant certs in pictures seem very silly, to me.
Paul Boz wrote: » People on these forums discuss whether human resources will value a MCITP as much as an MCSE and you're going to start talking about redundancy in certs? you honestly think that HR departments know you need a CCNA to get a CCNP? I worked hard for the certs, I want them listed. It is very flashy, that's the point. Resumes have one purpose: to sell yourself and sell yourself well. It is usually the first thing potential employers see, long before they actually speak to you.
Paul Boz wrote: » It is very flashy, that's the point. Resumes have one purpose: to sell yourself and sell yourself well. It is usually the first thing potential employers see, long before they actually speak to you.
networker050184 wrote: » I totally agree you need to sell yourself on your resume, but flashy isn't always good. This picture comes to mind. Flashy, yes. Looks good, no! I'm sure there is at least one guy out there that thinks it looks good though
Paul Boz wrote: » Because it takes up space and spells out what the certifications actually are. I have nothing else to fill the space and it drives the point home further. I have had at least a dozen recruiters look at my resume and no one has had a complaint about it so far. At a glance the logos do not detail what the certifications are. For some of the lesser-known Cisco certs (CCIP, for example) people usually don't know what it is. I have to explain that one constantly. I do have anecdotal evidence that it works. The goal of a resume isn't to look vanilla. You have to make your resume jump out of the stack and get attention. Also, to the haters of putting logos on resumes: Please direct your attention to Scott Morris. He is why I put them on mine:Resume
Paul Boz wrote: » I have been told by several recruiters that my resume is the best styled that they have seen.
ColbyNA wrote: » Like I said, I'm for redundancy in text, but I think having redundant logos is an even bigger waste of space. I doubt HR knows what any of the certs are, but I'm sure they can read.
dynamik wrote: » It's time to nut-up or shutup. What does this thing look like?
elover_jm wrote: » Put it in the header, make em small and neat
Paul Boz wrote: » Also, to the haters of putting logos on resumes[/url]
mikedisd2 wrote: » neo-**** fascism.
mikedisd2 wrote: » I can't say n@21 ? Tough crowd. (Excuse the l33t translation; I think that may be more offensive.)
ColbyNA wrote: » He posted it:
dynamik wrote: » That image hosting site must be filtered here; it displays fine at home.
Pash wrote: » A recruiter told me to take off my logo's on my resume a few years ago, that said I've never had any pro certs! I do really like Paul's resume layout, I think it looks very dapper. If I saw that on a stack of usual cv's I would pick that one up and read it first. I don't think there is wasted space, it's on one sheet and it looks professional. I think eMes provides sound advice again, it really is about knowing your audience. For example, when I was at college I sent out my cv to work at several local web design studios, my resume was online with a portfolio and very styalized. Typically when the HR guys speak to IT management, IT management will know these ancronyms and aslong as they are relevant to the job role you are going for, it will only help.
tpatt100 wrote: » But your use of logos coupled with your format looks great (actually it rather inspired me once I get my CISA) . The OP's use of logos looks better for a web page rather than a resume. Your resume's use of logos also shows a "theme" of "hey I work on Cisco stuff" where as others like myself the use of several different vendor certs would make my resume look like a Web 1.0 done in Frontpage. It would not flow together well. Your Cisco certs go together though and the "badge" look looks better laid out like that. Most of the other certs are more landscape. Now the Scott Morris resume? I think his resume with the emphasis of "Certs" first is trying to make somebody over look that he has been a trainer for a long time and the last time he actually "worked" with routers in a real environment was the mid 90's? Not to say that the guy does not know his stuff but he has a gigantic lab in his basement. In a lab/classroom environment things rarely go wrong unless you did it wrong yourself. I think the resume in Word looks pretty bad with the giant logos. I think recruiters over look it due to the experience level. Or because he has been a trainer for so long his audience like mentioned earlier will be impressed by that stuff.
tpatt100 wrote: » Now the Scott Morris resume? I think his resume with the emphasis of "Certs" first is trying to make somebody over look that he has been a trainer for a long time and the last time he actually "worked" with routers in a real environment was the mid 90's? Not to say that the guy does not know his stuff but he has a gigantic lab in his basement. In a lab/classroom environment things rarely go wrong unless you did it wrong yourself. I think the resume in Word looks pretty bad with the giant logos. I think recruiters over look it due to the experience level. Or because he has been a trainer for so long his audience like mentioned earlier will be impressed by that stuff.
Uber-Geek wrote: » Or that my resume is really for display mostly for students to care about.... And that I haven't needed to worry about SENDING it to anyone to search for a job in over 10 years now? Or that my plethora of consulting gigs (try not to tell all of them I only train or they'll be very confused) get me by word of mouth. Don't mock what you don't understand. A resume is a marketing piece. Some like pretty and colorful, some do not. It should tell a story. I occasionally have folks I do consulting with want to see the resume, I have others that want to track down references (always say available on request). But it's never been a problem before, so I do what I like! About the training part, I know the resume may be hard to read with the 'overlapping' current jobs, but I think there's a simple separation there between training (Internetwork Expert) and consulting (Emanon.com --> whoever).Always live life to your own standards and desires. But if you'd really care to compare actual work at some point, I'd be happy to sit down with you. I just don't think it's relevant to a discussion about logos or not. Scottsmorris@uber-geek.net
tpatt100 wrote: » I would like to emphasize that I do not mean to offend anybody here, I am a new poster and I would not like to cause waves. I saw a resume that I found hard to read and gave an honest assessment based on "my experience with trainers" and it was meant for the poster earlier. I do enjoy reading the posts here so I do offer my apologies to everyone if I came across as snarky earlier especially to Uber-Geek.
networker050184 wrote: » I don't have any anecdotal evidence, but IMO it looks pretty cheesy and "oh look how cool I am" but not in a good way. I'd probably pass it up if I were going through the resumes. Just my opinion though.
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