Will the new CCNP affect CCDP?

Bosefus

Topic says it all.

Will the new CCNP affect the CCDP?

For example, if you already have your CCNP now, and were to take the ARCH after the the old BSCI and BCMSN retired, would you have to take the new BCMSN and BSCI to get the CCDP?

If so, that really bites because I will be in this boat, if I am able to succeed I will just squeek the CCNP in before the old set of exams retire, and I had planned on taking the ccda and arch after getting the ccnp.

mikej412

Bosefus wrote: »

Will the new CCNP affect the CCDP?

It didn't when they did the last major CCNP changes.

The old 642-801 BSCI exam was valid for 3 years from the passing date for use to meet certification requirements. The current 642-901 BSCI exam should be valid for 3 years to meet certification requirements.

If you have access to the Cisco Certification Tracking System you can see all the old exams (if they haven't hit their 3 year exam expiration date since passing) that you can apply to Cisco Certifications.

liven

mikej412 wrote: »

It didn't when they did the last major CCNP changes.

The old 642-801 BSCI exam was valid for 3 years from the passing date for use to meet certification requirements. The current 642-901 BSCI exam should be valid for 3 years to meet certification requirements.

If you have access to the Cisco Certification Tracking System you can see all the old exams (if they haven't hit their 3 year exam expiration date since passing) that you can apply to Cisco Certifications.

Does that mean you have to re-take CCNP in three years to hold the cert or if you wanted to use parts of it to apply to other certs you have to take the newer version?

tech-airman

Bosefus,

Bosefus wrote: »

Topic says it all.

Will the new CCNP affect the CCDP?

No, since they're separate Cisco certifications.

Bosefus wrote: »

For example, if you already have your CCNP now,

It depends. Which Cisco certification exams did you pass to achieve CCNP certification? What are the date(s) you passed those Cisco certification exams?

Bosefus wrote: »

and were to take the ARCH after the the old BSCI and BCMSN retired,

It depends. Did you take and pass the 642-812 BCMSN certification exam before the exam retired? Did you take and pass the 642-901 BSCI certification exam before the exam retired?

Bosefus wrote: »

would you have to take the new BCMSN and BSCI to get the CCDP?

It depends.
When did you pass the 642-901 BSCI certification exam?
Did you pass the 642-812 BCMSN certification exam within 3 years to the day of passing the 642-901 BSCI certification exam?
Did you pass the 640-863 DESGN certification exam within 3 years to the day of passing the 642-901 BSCI certification exam?
Did you pass the 642-873 ARCH certification exam within 3 years to the day of passing the 642-901 BSCI certification exam?

Bosefus wrote: »

If so, that really bites because I will be in this boat, if I am able to succeed I will just squeek the CCNP in before the old set of exams retire, and I had planned on taking the ccda and arch after getting the ccnp.

You need to understand that the CCNP certification and CCDP certification are separate boats. You need to decide which path(s) you're going to take. If you're serious about becoming CCDA certified, maybe do this next? That way, every exam you pass towards CCNP or CCDP certification will automatically renew your CCDA certification along the way. You are being warned that just because the CCDA certification is "just an Associate" level certification that you shouldn't underestimate the difficulty. The CCNP certification is part of the "Routing & Switching" track. The CCDA certified individual is expected to be familiar with all four tracks of: 1) Routing & Switching 2) Wireless LANs 3) Security 4) Voice. I think the only reason why the CCDA isn't elevated to a Professional level certification is because it is lacking the implementation and troubleshooting skills of the Professional level certifications. However, I believe that the knowledge level for the CCDA certified individual is on par with the Professional level certifications of CCNP, CCNP Wireless, CCSP, and CCVP certificates.

dynamik

It seemed like a valid question since 2/3 of the DP exams will likely be affected by the changes...

Mike adequately answered the question.

Liven, you only need one pro-level exam to renew all your pro-level certs. The exams themselves are only valid for three years, so you need to finish an entire track within three years.

Bosefus

Thank you all for your replies.

My goal is to have my CCNP by the cut off for the new exams.

I passed the BSCI this past summer and had planned on taking as I said earlier one exam during each of my breaks.

Now, since the changes, I am going to work on my ONT now while I am in school, hopefully have that done by the time school is out, then start BCMSN.

And attempt the ISCW while im in school during the spring.

However it shakes out, after my CCNP I had planned on getting my CCNA:S, then CCDA, followed by my CCDP.

mikej412

You have 3 years -- from start to finish -- to complete a Certification track. If you take more than 3 years, the first exam you took will have reached it's 3 year "expiration date" and would have to be retaken (before the 2nd exam you took reaches it's 3 year expiration date) to earn the Certification.

If you're doing the CCNP and CCDP -- the CCNA & CCDA will get recertified with each professional level exam -- but if you don't want to have to retake the BSIC & BCMSN exams a 2nd time, you'd have to "overlap" your CCNP & CCDP to fit the BSCI, BCMSN, and ARCH exams into the same 3 year period.