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celtic_tigerceltic_tiger Member Posts: 41 ■■□□□□□□□□
Hi all

Im finishing off the subnetting chapter on the cisco press book and I can do all the excercises on the book now i just need to understand how to interpret the answers i get.

This could be a dumb question but.

lets say I get the ip 10.100.18.18 255.248.0.0

I can get the:
subnet no. 10.96.0.0
1st usable ip 10.96.0.1
last usable 10.103.255.254
broadcast 10.193.255.255

So does that mean the ip address spans subnet 10.96.0.1 + subnet 10.97.0.1 and so on up to and including 10.103.255.255

meaning that this ip occupies 7 different subnets!!

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    miller811miller811 Member Posts: 897
    Hi all

    Im finishing off the subnetting chapter on the cisco press book and I can do all the excercises on the book now i just need to understand how to interpret the answers i get.

    This could be a dumb question but.

    lets say I get the ip 10.100.18.18 255.248.0.0

    I can get the:
    subnet no. 10.96.0.0
    1st usable ip 10.96.0.1
    last usable 10.103.255.254
    broadcast 10.193.255.255

    So does that mean the ip address spans subnet 10.96.0.1 + subnet 10.97.0.1 and so on up to and including 10.103.255.255

    meaning that this ip occupies 7 different subnets!!

    no it means exactly exactly what you described below minus the typo

    1st usable ip 10.96.0.1
    last usable 10.103.255.254
    broadcast 10.103.255.255

    that is the subnet (one and only) and includes those addresses.

    Even though is moves through the
    10.96
    10.97
    10.98
    10.99
    10.100
    10.101
    10.102
    10.103

    it is still in the same subnet

    /13 for the network portion and a /19 for the host bits.
    which means that there are 524288 hosts in the subnet 10.96.0.0

    with an address range that big, it could be further subnetted if desired, but the question at hand is to be able to identify and understand the question at hand.

    hope that helps

    have you looked at this link?

    http://www.techexams.net/forums/ccna-ccent/38772-subnetting-made-easy.html

    test your skills here
    IP Subnet Practice

    click the new problem button and then solve the question.
    repeat, repeat, repeat

    Your goal is to be able to subnet in your head when you finish.
    I don't claim to be an expert, but I sure would like to become one someday.

    Quest for 11K pages read in 2011
    Page Count total to date - 1283
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    comptech+comptech+ Member Posts: 1 ■□□□□□□□□□
    Re: previous question. If you are starting with the address 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 and you need 7 subnets. Your addresses will be 10.0.0.0 - 10.30.255.254 and a broadcast of 10.31.255.255 then the next network of 10.32.0.0 - 10.62.255.254 with a broadcast of 10.63.255.255 then the next network of 10.64.0.0 - 10.94.255.254 with a broadcast of 10.95.255.255 and so forth. All the way up to 10.224.0.0, so your ranges would be 10.0.0.0/27 10.32.0.0/29 10.64.0.0/27 10.96.0.0/27 10.128.0.0/27 10.160.0.0/27 10.192.0.0/27 10.224.0.0/27 and the subnet mask of 10.224.255.255 I think this is your answer.
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    thenjdukethenjduke Member Posts: 894 ■■■■□□□□□□
    Miller is right when comes to this problem. Remember the broadcast address is the next ip before the next subnet.
    miller811 wrote: »
    no it means exactly exactly what you described below minus the typo

    1st usable ip 10.96.0.1
    last usable 10.103.255.254
    broadcast 10.103.255.255

    that is the subnet (one and only) and includes those addresses.

    Even though is moves through the
    10.96
    10.97
    10.98
    10.99
    10.100
    10.101
    10.102
    10.103

    it is still in the same subnet

    /13 for the network portion and a /19 for the host bits.
    which means that there are 524288 hosts in the subnet 10.96.0.0

    with an address range that big, it could be further subnetted if desired, but the question at hand is to be able to identify and understand the question at hand.

    hope that helps

    have you looked at this link?

    http://www.techexams.net/forums/ccna-ccent/38772-subnetting-made-easy.html

    test your skills here
    IP Subnet Practice

    click the new problem button and then solve the question.
    repeat, repeat, repeat

    Your goal is to be able to subnet in your head when you finish.
    CCNA, MCP, MCSA, MCSE, MCDST, MCITP Enterprise Administrator, Working towards Networking BS. CCNP is Next.
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    celtic_tigerceltic_tiger Member Posts: 41 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Thanks for the replies.

    So I think that lets say there are x amount of subnets created with this mask and then this ip 10.103.18.18 /14 is located within the block of ip's below which is one of those subnet ranges?

    10.96
    10.97
    10.98
    10.99
    10.100
    10.101
    10.102
    10.103

    Am I right?
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    miller811miller811 Member Posts: 897
    Thanks for the replies.

    So I think that lets say there are x amount of subnets created with this mask and then this ip 10.103.18.18 /14 is located within the block of ip's below which is one of those subnet ranges?

    10.96
    10.97
    10.98
    10.99
    10.100
    10.101
    10.102
    10.103

    Am I right?

    Not sure if you are grasping it....

    once the mask becomes a /14 or .252, the block size is now only 4 bits....
    so with the address 10.103.18.18 /14 it resides on the 10.100.0.0 subnet
    first host 10.100.0.1
    last host 10.103.255.254
    broadcast 10.103.255.255

    next available subnet starts at
    10.104.0.0
    10.108.0.0
    10.112.0.0
    10.116.0.0
    I don't claim to be an expert, but I sure would like to become one someday.

    Quest for 11K pages read in 2011
    Page Count total to date - 1283
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    celtic_tigerceltic_tiger Member Posts: 41 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Ah I see it now, just re read your first post after a nights sleep. 1 subnet & multiple ip addresses per subnet. No of subnets depends on the subnet bits in mask.

    Dont know why i could'nt se that before. Some days my head just doesnt work.

    Thanks.
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