Top 5 certs for 2010- Network World

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Maybe you've seen this list before or maybe you just gave up on the "top n certs for this year" theme but here's the Network World's list of top 5 certs that boost your paycheck:
1. VMWare Certified Professional
2. Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist
3. Cisco Certified Architect
4. CompTIA Green Computing Certificate
5. ITIL v3 Foundations
Maybe those with a bit more know in the current state of IT would disagree? I personaly found no.4 highly questionable to be on the list at all and putting Cisco on 3 and not higher an indication of sponsorship of this whole review and not a reflection of how things really are... no.1 also raises brows (taking the prep course required in order to take the test- seriously?!), but maybe it's just my impression?
The article: 5 hot IT certification picks for 2010

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  • Hyper-MeHyper-Me Banned Posts: 2,059
    No.1 raises eyebrows, not because its not a very worthwhile cert, but because you are taking a 3000$ hit right off the bat just to get it. So I hope they are factoring in the "raise" you'll get offsetting that 3000$ buy in.
  • RobertKaucherRobertKaucher Member Posts: 4,298
    Hyper-Me wrote: »
    No.1 raises eyebrows, not because its not a very worthwhile cert, but because you are taking a 3000$ hit right off the bat just to get it. So I hope they are factoring in the "raise" you'll get offsetting that 3000$ buy in.

    Hyper, I'm a little shocked you didn't have something to say about listing MCTS. I mean really MCTS is not a certification. It's more of a title. MCTS: Windows 7 Configuring is a certification. Listing MCTS is far too generic.
  • phoeneousphoeneous Go ping yourself... Member Posts: 2,333 ■■■■■■■□□□
    Your link points to page 2.
  • Hyper-MeHyper-Me Banned Posts: 2,059
    Hyper, I'm a little shocked you didn't have something to say about listing MCTS. I mean really MCTS is not a certification. It's more of a title. MCTS: Windows 7 Configuring is a certification. Listing MCTS is far too generic.

    MCTS is a certififcation, but I would think that MCITP should be in that spot rather than just "MCTS".
  • RobertKaucherRobertKaucher Member Posts: 4,298
    Hyper-Me wrote: »
    MCTS is a certififcation, but I would think that MCITP should be in that spot rather than just "MCTS".
    So my question is then which one? This is why I say it's more of a title. MCITP has the same issue. Which one?

    "Which certifications do you have?"
    "MCTS and MCITP"

    That says nothing to me. Puting MCTS as number two is worthless.
  • Hyper-MeHyper-Me Banned Posts: 2,059
    So my question is then which one?

    Well EA, EMA, DBA would be the biggies.

    I dont know about "boosting your paycheck" but any MCITP would stand out, to me, over its MCTS' individually.

    Id rather have someone thats MCITP: EST, over just a MCTS Vista (all other things equal).


    EDIT: Come to think of it, I would argue with basically the whole list. VCP for reason stated before, MCTS based on what Robert said, WTF is a comptia green IT cert?, I see more job postings for CCNP/CCVP/CCIE than I do any of the Cisco Design stuff, and ITIL is just another fad that will die out when another best practices style emerges.
  • veritas_libertasveritas_libertas CISSP, GIAC x5, CompTIA x5 Greenville, SC USAMember Posts: 5,735 ■■■■■■■■■■
    So my question is then which one? This is why I say it's more of a title. MCITP has the same issue. Which one?

    "Which certifications do you have?"
    "MCTS and MCITP"

    That says nothing to me. Puting MCTS as number two is worthless.

    and now you landed straight in the middle of one my gripes...

    I am seeing listings for MCSE or MCITP lately. I mean really? I think Microsoft should have come up with something that is less of a mouth full then, "Microsoft Certified IT Professional: Enterprise Administrator"
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  • astorrsastorrs Member Posts: 3,139 ■■■■■■□□□□
    I am seeing listings for MCSE or MCITP lately. I mean really? I think Microsoft should have come up with something that is less of a mouth full then, "Microsoft Certified IT Professional: Enterprise Administrator"
    Hey it could have been worse knowing their past product naming decisions...

    Microsoft Certified Information Technology or Information Systems Professional: Enterprise Plus Edition Administrating Engineer (MC-IT/IS-P:EPEAE)
  • rsuttonrsutton Member Posts: 1,029 ■■■■■□□□□□
    top 5 certs that boost your paycheck

    This would imply that you already have a job, and that obtaining these certifications would increase your current salary. I wonder how they came to collect this data. The article doesn't seem to say.
  • veritas_libertasveritas_libertas CISSP, GIAC x5, CompTIA x5 Greenville, SC USAMember Posts: 5,735 ■■■■■■■■■■
    astorrs wrote: »
    Hey it could have been worse knowing their past product naming decisions...

    Microsoft Certified Information Technology or Information Systems Professional: Enterprise Plus Edition Administrating Engineer (MC-IT/IS-P:EPEAE)

    Kind of like going to the Ice Cream shop.... icon_lol.gif
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  • ColbyGColbyG Member Posts: 1,264
    Cisco Certified Architect, hahahaha.
  • Hyper-MeHyper-Me Banned Posts: 2,059
    I'm actually quite surprised they renamed MCITP rather than going with MCSE R2: Enterprise Edition

    :D
  • RobertKaucherRobertKaucher Member Posts: 4,298
    Hyper-Me wrote: »
    I'm actually quite surprised they renamed MCITP rather than going with MCSE R2: Enterprise Edition

    :D
    They were going to but no one could understand the per processor licensing schemes.
  • pennystraderpennystrader Member Posts: 155
    I am not surprised at all to see the VCP as #1. We are in a down economy that is struggling and VMware and virtualization has proven it increases flexibility benefits for OS's and applications.

    * Server consolidation.

    * Energy conservation.

    * Improving ease of management.

    * Reducing backup and recovery time.

    * Testing software configurations.

    * Maintaining legacy applications.

    * Maintaining a cross-platform office.


    That all being said I think virtualization is bigger and will continue to grow as cloud computing becomes more of a reality and data continues to grow and evolve.

    The more knowledge one obtains the more there is too accumulate.....

  • cbigbrickcbigbrick Member Posts: 284
    Going to class for VCP in May and then hopefully a cert in June.

    Will be working on Cisco stuff along with CISSP after that.
    And in conclusion your point was.....???

    Don't get so upset...it's just ones and zeros.
  • Hyper-MeHyper-Me Banned Posts: 2,059
    I'm going to start a "donate 1$ so I can become a VCP" group on facebook.

    Anyone think I can get 3000 people to donate 1 $? lol
  • earweedearweed Member Posts: 5,192 ■■■■■■■■■□
    Hyper-Me wrote: »
    I'm actually quite surprised they renamed MCITP rather than going with MCSE R2: Enterprise Edition

    :D
    I'm old school. Why not MCSE.1 ?
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  • mikej412mikej412 Member Posts: 10,090
    ColbyG wrote: »
    Cisco Certified Architect, hahahaha.
    Has anyone (outside of Cisco) even earned it yet? icon_lol.gif
    :mike: Cisco Certifications -- Collect the Entire Set!
  • forkvoidforkvoid Member Posts: 317
    mikej412 wrote: »
    Has anyone (outside of Cisco) even earned it yet? icon_lol.gif

    I don't think the testing dates are even available yet.
    Hyper-Me wrote:
    ITIL is just another fad that will die out when another best practices style emerges.

    ITIL has been used for quite some time, and keeps gaining steam. There's only a handful of decent frameworks/libraries, with ITIL probably be the "best" one of them.

    I don't see it as just another fad at all. As far as the design stuff, that's because most designers are implementers who've fallen into design work. In the seriously large companies, I've heard of guys who are solely design with actual design certs. I can't imagine them being called for much outside of large enterprises, probably due to managers not knowing about them. It's more a serious niche, hence why you likely never see anything. I'd say most of the design guys are consultants.
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  • LaminiLamini Member Posts: 242 ■■■□□□□□□□
    earweed wrote: »
    I'm old school. Why not MCSE.1 ?

    hehehe mcse ftw. xp/server2003 have at least couple years left in my work environment.
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  • Hyper-MeHyper-Me Banned Posts: 2,059
    forkvoid wrote: »
    I don't think the testing dates are even available yet.



    ITIL has been used for quite some time, and keeps gaining steam. There's only a handful of decent frameworks/libraries, with ITIL probably be the "best" one of them.

    I don't see it as just another fad at all. As far as the design stuff, that's because most designers are implementers who've fallen into design work. In the seriously large companies, I've heard of guys who are solely design with actual design certs. I can't imagine them being called for much outside of large enterprises, probably due to managers not knowing about them. It's more a serious niche, hence why you likely never see anything. I'd say most of the design guys are consultants.


    Yeah, there are only so many "best ways" to do something. I'm not saying ITIL isn't worthwhile in the sense that it can lay very good framework for how things run, but it seems like very similar type products are outlined with a different name every few years. It might be ITIL today, it could be SixSigma tomorrow, or yet something else entirely.
  • tpatt100tpatt100 Member Posts: 2,991 ■■■■■■■■■□
    I think VMware is big no idea that number 4 even existed
  • subl1m1nalsubl1m1nal Member Posts: 176
    My 2 pennies:

    1. VMWare Certified Professional - $3000 class? What about us self learners???

    2. Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist - What about MCITP:EA??? You can get MCTS on Vista!!!

    3. Cisco Certified Architect - Just another Cisco cert.

    4. CompTIA Green Computing Certificate - Barely know about this one besides it covers virtualization and power efficiencies. Better get familiar with ROI if you're taking this one.

    5. ITIL v3 Foundations - Boring. Give me something technical!!!
    Currently Working On: 70-643 - Configuring Windows Server 2008 Applications Infrastructure

    Plans for 2010: MCITP:EA and CCNA
    70-648 - Done
    70-643 - In progress
    70-647 - Still on my list
    70-680 - Still on my list

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  • CherperCherper Member Posts: 140 ■□□□□□□□□□
    subl1m1nal wrote: »
    3. Cisco Certified Architect - Just another Cisco cert.


    According to Cisco this is anything but "just another Cisco cert." Supposedly there are only 3 people holding this cert right now. The first opportunity to test was in February 2010. Other than that nothing is on the horizon.

    Cisco Certified Architect is the highest level of accreditation achievable within the Cisco Career
    Certification program. It is the pinnacle for individuals wishing to show their formal validation of Cisco technologies and infrastructure architecture.


    At $15,000 for the board portion of the exam it ought to be sought after. Here is a bit more info.

    Cost

    The Board Exam cost is USD$15,000. Payment will be made in two parts. Login and refer to the Application & Board Exam Information Tab for more information.

    Exam Environment

    The exam is only offered at select locations worldwide. Qualified candidates will be provided additional information upon request. Only candidates that have a current CCDE certification may apply for this certification.

    Methodology & Delivery

    There are no formal training programs available for the Cisco Certified Architect certification. However, candidates wishing to attain their Cisco Certified Architect certification must meet before an in-person board made of Cisco-appointed exam committee members during which the candidate defends their proposed network solution.




    Studying and Reading:

    Whatever strikes my fancy...
  • forkvoidforkvoid Member Posts: 317
    Hyper-Me wrote: »
    Yeah, there are only so many "best ways" to do something. I'm not saying ITIL isn't worthwhile in the sense that it can lay very good framework for how things run, but it seems like very similar type products are outlined with a different name every few years. It might be ITIL today, it could be SixSigma tomorrow, or yet something else entirely.

    ITIL is a framework/library for aligning IT with business.

    SixSigma is to improve results via standardization. Nothing to do with IT.

    There's also COBIT, CMMI, ISO20k, but they each have their niches and specific purposes. eMeS knows more about them than I do.

    ITIL has been around a very long time, but seeing as it's a British thing, it's only recently(past decade) seriously catching on in the US, hence why you see it as another technology fad. A large number of European-based companies are totally ITIL and have been for many years.
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  • Hyper-MeHyper-Me Banned Posts: 2,059
    I guess we will see how prevalent it is in the future. Im not holding my breath, though.
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