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Cisco 831 no vlan tagging

AkiiiAkiii Member Posts: 80 ■■□□□□□□□□
Hi,

Just grabbed a cheap 831 from ebay, and I just realized that there's no such thing as vlan in it. Checked the feature navigate but it seems that I'm doomed. So basically I can throw this out of the window if I want vlan?

thnks

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    alan2308alan2308 Member Posts: 1,854 ■■■■■■■■□□
    Akiii wrote: »
    Hi,

    Just grabbed a cheap 831 from ebay, and I just realized that there's no such thing as vlan in it. Checked the feature navigate but it seems that I'm doomed. So basically I can throw this out of the window if I want vlan?

    thnks

    Yea, pretty much. They're EOL'ed, so its pretty much WYSIWYG at this point with those.

    However, I see that they're going for $20 and they can run IOS 12.4 IP/FW/PLUS 3DES and they support SDM. It's definitely something I'll be keeping in mind when I move on to CCNA:Security since I don't have any SDM capable routers right now.
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    AkiiiAkiii Member Posts: 80 ■■□□□□□□□□
    alan2308 wrote: »
    Yea, pretty much. They're EOL'ed, so its pretty much WYSIWYG at this point with those.

    However, I see that they're going for $20 and they can run IOS 12.4 IP/FW/PLUS 3DES and they support SDM. It's definitely something I'll be keeping in mind when I move on to CCNA:Security since I don't have any SDM capable routers right now.


    Ok thanks, just PM one you get there.

    1 more thing, has anyone know what can be the problem with the following config? I'm trying to setup my 831 through a cable modem but it doesn't want to work. Maybe I'm just tired and need to look into this tomorrow :P

    Cisco#sh run
    Building configuration...

    Current configuration : 2701 bytes
    !
    version 12.3
    no service pad
    service tcp-keepalives-in
    service tcp-keepalives-out
    service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime show-timezone
    service timestamps log datetime msec localtime show-timezone
    service password-encryption
    service sequence-numbers
    !
    hostname Cisco
    !
    security authentication failure rate 3 log
    security passwords min-length 6
    logging buffered 51200 debugging
    logging console critical
    !

    username Admin privilege 15 secret 5 $1$GgSK$FSnAGJKxIlVER89cSbZvA1
    no aaa new-model
    ip subnet-zero
    no ip source-route
    ip tcp synwait-time 10
    no ip domain lookup
    ip domain name yourdomain.com
    ip dhcp excluded-address 10.10.10.1
    !
    !
    ip dhcp pool sdm-pool1
    import all
    network 10.10.10.0 255.255.255.0
    default-router 10.10.10.1
    !
    !
    no ip bootp server
    ip cef
    ip audit notify log
    ip audit po max-events 100
    ip ssh time-out 60
    ip ssh authentication-retries 2
    no ftp-server write-enable
    !
    !
    !
    !
    !
    !
    !
    interface Ethernet0
    description $ETH-LAN$$ETH-SW-LAUNCH$$INTF-INFO-Ethernet 10/100$$ES_LAN$$FW_INSIDE$
    ip address 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.0
    no ip redirects
    no ip unreachables
    no ip proxy-arp
    ip nat inside
    ip route-cache flow
    shutdown
    no cdp enable
    !
    interface Ethernet1
    description $ES_WAN$$FW_OUTSIDE$
    ip address dhcp client-id Ethernet1
    no ip redirects
    no ip unreachables
    no ip proxy-arp
    ip nat outside
    ip route-cache flow
    duplex auto
    no cdp enable
    !
    interface FastEthernet1
    no ip address
    duplex auto
    speed auto
    !
    interface FastEthernet2
    no ip address
    duplex auto
    speed auto
    !
    interface FastEthernet3
    no ip address
    duplex auto
    speed auto
    !
    interface FastEthernet4
    no ip address
    duplex auto
    speed auto
    !
    ip nat inside source list 1 interface Ethernet1 overload
    ip classless
    ip http server
    ip http authentication local
    ip http secure-server
    ip http timeout-policy idle 60 life 86400 requests 10000
    !
    logging trap debugging
    access-list 1 remark INSIDE_IF=Ethernet0
    access-list 1 remark SDM_ACL Category=2
    access-list 1 permit 10.10.10.0 0.0.0.255
    no cdp run
    banner login ^CAuthorized access only!
    Disconnect IMMEDIATELY if you are not an authorized user!^C
    !
    line con 0
    exec-timeout 3 30
    logging synchronous
    login local
    no modem enable
    transport output telnet
    line aux 0
    login local
    transport output telnet
    line vty 0 4
    privilege level 15
    login local
    transport input telnet ssh
    !
    scheduler max-task-time 5000
    scheduler interval 500
    !
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    burbankmarcburbankmarc Member Posts: 460
    Your config looks ok. Are you not able to pull a DHCP request? Does the interface come up when you plug it in?

    Remember you gotta unplug your modem for about 30 seconds before you plug a new device into it, so it clears it's MAC association.
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    AkiiiAkiii Member Posts: 80 ■■□□□□□□□□
    Your config looks ok. Are you not able to pull a DHCP request? Does the interface come up when you plug it in?

    Remember you gotta unplug your modem for about 30 seconds before you plug a new device into it, so it clears it's MAC association.


    The interfaces are working with up and up, so I believe there's something wrong with that dhcp and I've just reseted the modem but same issue.
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    burbankmarcburbankmarc Member Posts: 460
    weird, maybe it doesn't like your client id, remove that and just use the generic. if all else fails you can always call your ISP, sometimes they have to manually clear the MAC association
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    AkiiiAkiii Member Posts: 80 ■■□□□□□□□□
    weird, maybe it doesn't like your client id, remove that and just use the generic. if all else fails you can always call your ISP, sometimes they have to manually clear the MAC association

    thanks its working now, I just had to reboot the modem once again (hurray)

    Is that normal if I see 4 fa ports and 2 eth ports in the cli, while there's only 1 eth? Maybe some ios glitch?
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    alan2308alan2308 Member Posts: 1,854 ■■■■■■■■□□
    Akiii wrote: »
    thanks its working now, I just had to reboot the modem once again (hurray)

    Is that normal if I see 4 fa ports and 2 eth ports in the cli, while there's only 1 eth? Maybe some ios glitch?

    One may be the internal interface connecting the router and switch.
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    AkiiiAkiii Member Posts: 80 ■■□□□□□□□□
    alan2308 wrote: »
    One may be the internal interface connecting the router and switch.

    Wich interface do you mean by that?
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    alan2308alan2308 Member Posts: 1,854 ■■■■■■■■□□
    Akiii wrote: »
    Wich interface do you mean by that?

    One of the two eth ports.
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    AkiiiAkiii Member Posts: 80 ■■□□□□□□□□
    alan2308 wrote: »
    One of the two eth ports.

    Sorry I feel a little bit confused here.

    Cisco 830 Series Secure Broadband Routers [Cisco 800 Series Routers] - Cisco Systems

    There's 1 console 1 ethernet and 4 fasthernet

    and I'm wondering why does it show 2 ethernet in the int brief?
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    tierstentiersten Member Posts: 4,505
    It is what alan2308 said.

    Ethernet0 is the LAN side of the router and it is internally connected to the 4 port Fast Ethernet switch. The switch in a 831 is a basic managed switch which only allows you to set speed and duplex.
    Ethernet1 is the WAN side of the router.
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    alan2308alan2308 Member Posts: 1,854 ■■■■■■■■□□
    Let me try to expand a little bit more Akiii.

    There are two separate devices in the Cisco 831, a router and a switch. They just happen to be shoved into the same physical box. These two devices are connected by an Ethernet interface. It's all internal, so you don't see an additional physical RJ-45 connector for this interface. Here's a quick drawing, maybe it'll help. The FastEthernet interfaces are numbered wrong, but you get the idea.

    image.jpg
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    tierstentiersten Member Posts: 4,505
    I'm in awe of your drawing! But yeah. Thats much better than a text only explanation :)
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    AkiiiAkiii Member Posts: 80 ■■□□□□□□□□
    ok thanks guys finally got it :D
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