RouteMyPacket wrote: »
BOOM! Awesome! A fresh CCIE, legit CCIE at that! You are now a God amongst men/women! lulz
Plazma wrote: »
Wow.. lulz.. a legit CCIE? What is the definition of a NON legit CCIE ?
gorebrush wrote: »
Not asleep - busy labbing...
6 full months left for me before my first lab attempt in October. Feeling quietly confident at the moment but I still have a very long way to go for sure. Lots more labbing to be done. Need to see more v5 practice labs though to see what I am up against. Will be very interesting to see though.
keenon wrote: »
I passed the written yesterday again after 5 years
joelsfood wrote: »
Troubleshooting (the specific section in R&S, and the skill in genearl), is what separates a CCIE from a CCNP (or a dumper). A CCNP can follow a config guide, set something up from defaults, and put it into production. A CCIE can take something that has already been configured to some extent, isn't working, and has the necessarily knowledge and experience to troubleshoot the issue and get it working.
Well, to be fair, troubleshooting makes the difference between an expert and a professional. Troubleshooting and the ability to read which of 3-8 different workable solutions a particular CCIE lab question is actually asking for so you get the points makes you a CCIE.
lostindaylight wrote: »
With all respect, I believe that's oversimpifying. There is a massive gulf between CCIE level and CCNP level knowledge and configuration skills.
A typical CCNP cannot build up a MPLS network with route leaking and attribute manipulation for multiple customers across a core network running multiple IGPs, add DMVPN network, then traffic engineer everything over the dual backbones to spec, throwing in some extra like QoS and and multicast, and have it all working a few hours.
Regarding troubleshooting speed being the final piece of the puzzle, that I completely agree with.
gorebrush wrote: »
I am in a position at work where I sit next to a CCNP who thinks he can just read some books and do some labs and bam he's a CCIE. Then he looks at me like I have two heads when I pass him the reading list I had when I went through the CCIE, and the fact that I spent close to 1750 hours total studying for it.
At this point I just give him the info and let him get on with it.