Now that potential employers have refused to hire unemployed people....
tdean
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im trying to think of ways to get them to at least consider me. ive been out for a year b/c i got laid off, then was awarded classes via unemp... the classes kept getting delayed, months at a time and took 8 months rather than 2. since i've been off, i have completed the following courses. i am considering adding this to a cover letter.... what do you think?
CCNA, CCNA:Sec, CCNA:Voice, vSphere, Deploying VDI, exchange 2010 with messaging, CWNA, IIS 7.0/7.5 admin, server 2008 AD, configuring network infrastructure, application infrastructure, SSCP, and i've started CISSP.
i just dont want them to think ive been sitting around doing nothing. its brutal out there, i had a "fight" with the hiring mgr at the largest IT recruiting co in the northeast when he said i wouldnt be considered b/c his clients can afford to be "picky" in this economy. that put me over the edge..... anyway, what do you guys think about adding something like that to a cover letter?
CCNA, CCNA:Sec, CCNA:Voice, vSphere, Deploying VDI, exchange 2010 with messaging, CWNA, IIS 7.0/7.5 admin, server 2008 AD, configuring network infrastructure, application infrastructure, SSCP, and i've started CISSP.
i just dont want them to think ive been sitting around doing nothing. its brutal out there, i had a "fight" with the hiring mgr at the largest IT recruiting co in the northeast when he said i wouldnt be considered b/c his clients can afford to be "picky" in this economy. that put me over the edge..... anyway, what do you guys think about adding something like that to a cover letter?
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Tdean, all I can tell you is don't be discouraged. I was out of work for about 7-8 months out of my career due to 9/11, so I know what that's like. Just keep trucking along and I promise you employment will come. If I had to, I was willing to leave town and almost came close a couple of times.
What I would do is stop jockeying staffing companies and use the crap out of the job boards (which I am sure you are doing and, if so, keep doing it). Also, let us critique your resume so we can help with what works and what doesn't. (Just minus the personal info and company names).
Trust me, you'll be fine, and I say that in the most non-patronizing way possible. It's easy to despair when times are rough...from personal experience I know.
Ok, I'll be the bad guy here.
What kind of classes, college or a local training academy?
How did you 'complete' them?
What does a class on 'Deploying VDI' or 'Exchange 2010 with messaging' cover, and can you clearly explain the syllabus to a hiring manager?
Did you pass any of the related certifications?
More importantly, do you have any real experience with any of the technologies?
IMO, a cover letter should be used to indroduce yourself and explain why you are a great fit for the position. It should be customized for every application and cover how your skills match up to specific requests in the posting. If you feel that your having attended classes across a broad spectrum of technology makes you the best candidate, then by all means include that in your cover letter. If you are only considering including them as an act of desperation or to get past the resume filters, then you should reconsider.
One problem I have with your course listing is there is no overall direction. You have Cisco, VMWare, Microsoft, and Security all mixed in there. What do you really want to do in this industry? If you are taking all these classes because that is what is available, I can understand. Training can be very hard to come by, and if you wanted to make the most out of the opportunity I can appreciate your enthusiasm. However, you should be supplementing these courses with self-study that focuses more on your chosen career path.
i dont know where some of you guys get these jobs where you are responsible for 4-5 different roles. every place i've been, or applied to, i was the single tech presence, responsible for ad, email, security, firewall, routers/switches, apps, web site, virtualization, purchasing, help desk, phones, wireless, vpn, etc etc....
i simply dont know how to find a good job.
If you're having difficulty finding full time work, volunteer somewhere. You have all of these skills, why not put them to use?
Also, what does your LinkedIn profile look like? What kind of presence do you have on the web? Do you Twitter? Do you network at all? Being out of work for a year is a LONG time. Surely you can find some way to contribute while you're waiting for your next job.
If no one will pay you for your time, give it away to some local charity and then ask for references on you LinkedIn profile. Or do what I did and start consulting.
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i wouldnt mind volunteering, in fact, if i was really helping people out i'd really enjoy it.... i have no clue where i'd be able to do that though. i need to work on my linkedin profile for sure. i have an article downstairs on that. twitter is a definite no.. lol.
i dont network at all b/c like i was mentioning earlier, i have always been the only person on site at the places i've worked. i dont know a single person in the field.
when you say "consulting" do you mean for yourself? if so, howd you get customers?
If you want to some volunteer gigs to get some experience and to close up the unemployment gap try and do what I did. Grab your phone, go to google or go to a MS or a Cisco partnership website and search for some I.T companies in your area where you would like to work. Email them or phone them and tell them that you are looking to volunteer for free for some work experience.
That was what I did and it worked I was able to find so many volunteer gigs, it has gave me solid experience and I was able to learn so much and gain new skills.
I am still doing this sys engineer volunteer gig and I love it, I get around 2 face to face interviews thanks to my volunteer work, sure I didn't get paid, I got the experience, but seriously I need a job that pays now cause I deserve one.
You can either volunteer or setup something saying that you do small business support on craigslist in your area. Make up some business cards and give them to friends and family and have them pass them out to people that they come in contact with and see if you can get something from that.
Yes it is crazy...
Well then maybe recruitment consultants should do a better job of finding people work then you wouldn't be kicking your heels for so long. I had a spell last year in between contracts when things were quiet and it didn't make me unemployable at all. As for the employer, that's discrimination but it happens unfortunately, which is why there is legislation to try and stop it. You will get this though. Just keep applying for work until someone gives you a break.
My theory is not the best nor 100% full proof but it landed me my job back in june 09 of last year.
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Can I ask you is this training and do not have the certifications yet? If so I would knock some of those certs out. One other thing about cover letters is HR rarely looks at them and I know HR here just puts the resume through a program and matches keywords for what they are looking for.
You actually would be surprised how much working on your CCNA helps with Microsoft Exams just for the simple fact Microsoft does not expose you to the OSI World ord the IP world.
If you don't have the cert, don't start listing them on a cover letter or resume. You may have the knowledge, but if you don't have the paper, don't claim the certification. You can say that you have studied the CCNA:Sec material, but until you have the paper, you have only studied. That is a surefire way to get your application circular filed.
Whatever strikes my fancy...
i'd never claim anything i havent achieved. in fact, i quite undersell myself. i made it perfectly clear in my cover letter that other than the certs listed, these were "courses completed."
If people "like" you from what you write in your letter, which is generally more personal than the resume, they can overlook your unemployed stint. If I were you, I would include that as a result of your unemployment you are fresh and motivated to work hard for whoever takes you on. Employers like hearing stuff like that. In your case its probably true!
Its like having a criminal record, most peoples' official stance is that they don't hire those people, but the reality is that your probably working right next to a felon. If they wan't you, they will waive almost any hiring requirement.